Does anyone still think the old time heavyweights were too small to be competitive in the modern era?

[QueensburyRules]

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- - How many x U busted fer peds?

[Dr Z]

Little Usyk came up from cruiserweight and has beaten Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury twice. As well as Dubois.

But Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis wouldn’t be able to hang? Come on now.

Well if he had power, movement skills, stamina and good chin, he would. Very few had all these attributes. Usky is 6'3" 220+ lbs with a 78" reach. He is nowhere near small.

Sure -- Louis and Dempsey could KO anyone IF they landed their best stuff, but a decision win seems unlikely vs. the bset modern heavies.. And neither Jack nor Joe had good defense or a good chin. They are handicapped in a modern sense by lack of reach too.

[ShoulderRoll]

Well if he had power, movement skills, stamina and good chin, he would. Very few had all these attributes. Usky is 6'3" 220+ lbs with a 78" reach. He is nowhere near small.

Sure -- Louis and Dempsey could KO anyone IF they landed their best stuff, but a decision win seems unlikely vs. the bset modern heavies.. And neither Jack nor Joe had good defense or a good chin. They are handicapped in a modern sense by lack of reach too.

They knew how to fight inside, which is almost a lost art among modern heavyweights.

[Anomalocaris]

They knew how to fight inside, which is almost a lost art among modern heavyweights.

Getting inside is the problem with someone vastly bigger and with a longer teach than you have especially a skilled superheavy like prime Lewis the brothers or Fury.

Even Usyk is a much bigger man.

[Bronson66]

Getting inside is the problem with someone vastly bigger and with a longer teach than you have especially a skilled superheavy like prime Lewis the brothers or Fury.

Even Usyk is a much bigger man.

Once inside what is to stop a fighter 50/60lbs heavier than you ,simply tying you up and lying on you , draining you of your energy?

[Mr Mitts]

Here is another meaningful question to me. Could the average contender of Dempsey or Louis eras handle the average galoot contender of today?

Louis and Dempsey are the most special of special of the old gnome heavyweights. They or even Marciano might take out Big Baby Huey, for instance. But how might their contenders do against him and other hopeful heavyweight pugilists today?

[IronDanHamza]

Getting inside is the problem with someone vastly bigger and with a longer teach than you have especially a skilled superheavy like prime Lewis the brothers or Fury.

Even Usyk is a much bigger man.

Did you read this part ShoulderRoll ?

Or are you just going to continue to ignore it like you do every other time some shuts down one of your retarded arguments?

[Marchegiano]

Once inside what is to stop a fighter 50/60lbs heavier than you simply tying you up and lying on you ,and draining you of your energy?

Punches

[Marchegiano]

Did you all come in this one thread to consolidate or are you cowards cowering away from me for easier fare?


Most of this is tard levels of ****** on both ends and I don't honestly understand TF is wrong with youse.

Is leverage controversial?

Is metabolic rate controversial?

How about gravity, that's a controversial aspect of boxing is it?

The law of conservation of energy is a controversial stance to take in boxing?

Kinematic chains is a controversy?

The only data we have on human bone averages comes from **** experiments on ***ish inmates and somehow I am able to use that data to make you an arm while yet another jabroni is a totally different industry uses that same data to make your helmets, including, your ****ing headgear you dumb ****s. Maybe because data doesn't give a **** about any transitive taking shine off your favorite fighter? I said maybe, there is no maybe.



But X beat Y or A gained/lost B pounds for fight C means something. It's not a bunch of ****** stacked on ****** arguing a ****** argument in ****** terms by the very ****ing definition of ******ity.



If you think I am wrong get your goofy ass off boxrec and get on a GD medical site. See how ****ed to death ****** this entire debate is.





Why can't youse give a value to ANY aspect of boxing and come up with a system everyone agrees is a fair rating system? Because you're too ****** to accept what bias is and too proud to admit it. You're probably too ****** to see the relation between data sets by ****s and boxrec and put together what I just ****ing told you too.




Y'all go on believing your goofy ****. Meanwhile when I make an arm for an 78 inch reach I'm adding reinforcement to it so it can perform at least at the same level of a 68 inch reach without breaking.



Oh no I wrote more than three lines and cursed at you. More than enough reason to shut your brain off ennit? I gave you your outs. Y'all probably take those too rather than, you know, learning a ****ing thing ever.

[ShoulderRoll]

Getting inside is the problem with someone vastly bigger and with a longer teach than you have especially a skilled superheavy like prime Lewis the brothers or Fury.

Even Usyk is a much bigger man.

Bill Tate was 6’ 6 1/2” and had an 81” reach. Big men were not unknown in Jack Dempsey’s time.