Does anyone still think the old time heavyweights were too small to be competitive in the modern era?

[IronDanHamza]

The guy is allergic to logic I’m afraid.

In his response he’ll just repeat his point again. Bank on it.

Bronson66

I told you on page 1

Here we are on page 29 doing exactly what I said.

[Anomalocaris]

Why is everyone mentioning Ali?

Both versions the '67 lightening fast dancing master or the early 70's stronger more battle hardened fighter would be favoured over every heavy or superheavy that ever lived.

The poster who favours 185 pound Marciano over everyone stated that Usk was small, not me.

I said RELATIVELY.

At 225 now he is a huge man.

[YGriffith]

Usyk is the exception not the rule.
How many small men have been victim to size differences ? Why would pre historic small boxers with literally no skills achieve what Usyk achieved?

[Anomalocaris]

Usyk is the exception not the rule.
How many small men have been victim to size differences ? Why would pre historic small boxers with literally no skills achieve what Usyk achieved?

They wouldn't.

The idea that relative midgets like 185 pound Marciano (despite all the mythology) could outmuscle men 50 - 80 or so pounds heavier makes no sense.

From the late 80's (when Tyson was champ) with modern nutrition (another stone or so) only Liston, Ali, Foreman and Holmes would have great careers.

[Bronson66]

Why is everyone mentioning Ali?

Both versions the '67 lightening fast dancing master or the early 70's stronger more battle hardened fighter would be favoured over every heavy or superheavy that ever lived.

The poster who favours 185 pound Marciano over everyone stated that Usk was small, not me.

I said RELATIVELY.

At 225 now he is a huge man.

When I pointed out to Apples that Usyk added all that muscle to be successful at the higher weight,he made the ludicrous claim that Usyk is now PORKY!

[Anomalocaris]

When I pointed out to Apples that Usyk added all that muscle to be successful at the higher weight,he made the ludicrous claim that Usyk is now PORKY!

I wish I was as 'porky'!

Perhaps the perfect heavyweight is a walking skull on a stick?

[IronDanHamza]

Why is everyone mentioning Ali?

Both versions the '67 lightening fast dancing master or the early 70's stronger more battle hardened fighter would be favoured over every heavy or superheavy that ever lived.

The poster who favours 185 pound Marciano over everyone stated that Usk was small, not me.

I said RELATIVELY.

At 225 now he is a huge man.

Well, that's precisely the point, isn't it?

ShoulderRoll the thread starter is (still, despite being debunked in the first post of the thread) trying to claim Usyk is a small Heavyweight when he's the exact same size as Muhammad Ali, who is, not small.

[billeau2]

LOL can't see that visual I actually like Zhang and think he's dangerous for anybody in the division right now. Ali was just two fast and Zhang would get punished.

That to me is exactly the point.

[QueensburyRules]

Well, that's precisely the point, isn't it?

ShoulderRoll the thread starter is (still, despite being debunked in the first post of the thread) trying to claim Usyk is a small Heavyweight when he's the exact same size as Muhammad Ali, who is, not small.

- - Usyk is bigger than Ali when he was weighing 220+ with 15 being blubber. Usyk is also more dedicated and educated than was Ali yielding a higher IQ with a greater range of boxing arsenal...

[max baer]

- - Usyk is bigger than Ali when he was weighing 220+ with 15 being blubber. Usyk is also more dedicated and educated than was Ali yielding a higher IQ with a greater range of boxing arsenal...

yeah the peds help him too don't they queeny? I think the scandal about to break about ukranien boxers and the widespread use of peds will surprise even you queeny!