PBC won't help DAZN hurt their business

[The Big Dunn]

He would have been a DAZN contracted fighter as well you ****ing pleb. They were trying to sign Wilder first as the priority, stop repeating this same bs in every thread. It would have still been a joint promotion. They wanted Deontay Wilder, the Joshua fight and numbers discussed were the caveat, and what they could offer which is normal for any valued commodity being offered a new deal.

The only thing you have in reply to this is conspiracy theories, and I'm not interested in them. Anyway networks and promoters dont have influence over fights, it's not the 1920s. Crowds do though just like most sports

Name calling doesn’t make your point valid.

Taking the deal would mean wilder would be putting himself in a cotto type situation when he fought manny. That simply isn’t smart business and isn’t giving your fighter the best chance to win.

To call that a conspiracy theory is just ****** and shows you lack a real understanding of how things go.

When the promoter is part owner of the network and has influence over the fights, that means The networks that have exclusive deals with fighters have the influence over fights.

[Articulateboxin]

Your last paragraph is speculative.

I expect posters to be honest about the situation and not take a child like approach to analyzing what is going on.

The bottom line is any promoter that was employed by wilder would be failing to do their job correctly if they advise him to take the deal to fight on DAZN.

Any poster with an ounce of integrity, knowledge of the sport, and common sense knows this. Instead of just saying so we get all this BS because it’s more important for many to make haymon and pbc look bad rather than just admit on this one not taking the deal was the right move.

Given the nature of fan bois, I don't think there is any speculation in it at all.

Well considering Wilder's current promotional situation (showtime already refusing to pay for 1 of his fights because he's overvalued) and the nature of the HW game, in the absence of hindsight, nobody under any circumstances can state what's a guaranteed mistake for taking and declining career high paydays.

Maybe staying away from DAZN will prove to be the best thing that ever happened to Wilder. However he already took a paycut for his Breazeale fight, the Ortiz rematch likely lost a **** tonne of money, the Fury rematch is looking far less popular than originally forecasted and if he loses, there is nothing to stop Fury retiring. He's (Fury) the most random and unpredictable character in all of the sport, why would you throw in a 1XXm deal for unproven figures, an opponent with a proven track record of uncertainty and a platform with a smaller budget? Yet you're here and sincerely telling me that unless I agree with your logic on this scenario, i'm lacking integrity and knowledge of the sport? I think if anything, these AJ fan bois have begun to cloud your integrity

[MDPopescu]

... people (in boxing) always tried to "steal" other people's assets...

... Al Haymon (for instance), didn't he "steal" almost all top fighters from the GBP roster?...

... and nobody here seems to pay attention on what i posted above:

"... people (in boxing) always tried to "steal" other people's assets...
... Al Haymon (for instance), didn't he "steal" almost all top fighters from the GBP roster?..." ...

[OnePunch]

They aren’t fighting on DAZN period. That’s a freakin deal breaker. I don’t get why people don’t understand that. PBC is in direct competition with DAZN and Haymon isn’t letting his greatest asset fight there ever. And you guys expect Wilder to surrender control of his career to Hearn, who he’s never trusted?

and that is EXACTLY why the Ali Act prohibits managers from getting involved in promotional activities. Its a CLEAR conflict of interest.....

[Outwest Exp 355]

and that is EXACTLY why the Ali Act prohibits managers from getting involved in promotional activities. Its a CLEAR conflict of interest.....

You could argue that doesn’t make it true necessarily.

[SplitSecond]

They aren’t fighting on DAZN period. That’s a freakin deal breaker. I don’t get why people don’t understand that. PBC is in direct competition with DAZN and Haymon isn’t letting his greatest asset fight there ever. And you guys expect Wilder to surrender control of his career to Hearn, who he’s never trusted?

Why not? He has everything to gain off Joshua. If he won and returned to PBC he’d be huge. Andrade is also willing to fight Charlo in PBC.

The issue with PBC is they are trying to work only with that they’ve got and ignoring everything else. They should be doing what DAZN is doing, trying to be the platform that holds the best fight.

[OnePunch]

You could argue that doesn’t make it true necessarily.

people can argue anything they want. You can argue that 2+2 isnt actually 4.

[DaNeutral.]

So he won't ever fight on DAZN and won't have any offers sent from the PBC.

BUT,

They ain't avoiding Joshua. Won't accept offers, won't create offers but it's wilder that wants the fight and joshua, who keeps sending career high offers, is the one ducking.


And these PBC wilder mongs want us to believe any of that?

[Outwest Exp 355]

Why not? He has everything to gain off Joshua. If he won and returned to PBC he’d be huge. Andrade is also willing to fight Charlo in PBC.

The issue with PBC is they are trying to work only with that they’ve got and ignoring everything else. They should be doing what DAZN is doing, trying to be the platform that holds the best fight.

If it’s about making the best fights then why not hold the fight on Fox? You see both sides have their own agenda and I’m sure both sides want the fight. They just want the fight on their terms.

[The Big Dunn]

Given the nature of fan bois, I don't think there is any speculation in it at all.

Well considering Wilder's current promotional situation (showtime already refusing to pay for 1 of his fights because he's overvalued) and the nature of the HW game, in the absence of hindsight, nobody under any circumstances can state what's a guaranteed mistake for taking and declining career high paydays.

Maybe staying away from DAZN will prove to be the best thing that ever happened to Wilder. However he already took a paycut for his Breazeale fight, the Ortiz rematch likely lost a **** tonne of money, the Fury rematch is looking far less popular than originally forecasted and if he loses, there is nothing to stop Fury retiring. He's (Fury) the most random and unpredictable character in all of the sport, why would you throw in a 1XXm deal for unproven figures, an opponent with a proven track record of uncertainty and a platform with a smaller budget? Yet you're here and sincerely telling me that unless I agree with your logic on this scenario, i'm lacking integrity and knowledge of the sport? I think if anything, these AJ fan bois have begun to cloud your integrity

Fan bois is not real. That is a childish term used here on NSB when people don't like that fans will not let them lie about Floyd, Haymon, Roy, Ward etc.

Yes they can. Its simple-you don't put your fighter in the position of fighting on another promoters card, on the network owned by the promoter, who will then have influence over the judges and refs selected, if winning is your top priority. You put your fighter in the position of having to win by KO or be in a perilous position. Many, many posters have discussed this going back years.

The thing here is the majority of posters have deemed Haymon the enemy (for reasons we all know). They want Haymon and his fighters to lose so they make it about the money rather than winning. A lot of those same posters are now saying "well that was the same thing with the $50 mil offer, it would've put AJ at a disadvantage", so Its clear they get exactly what is going on.

I didn't post you had to agree with my logic or you lacked integrity or knowledge. I posted Any poster with an ounce of integrity, knowledge of the sport, and common sense knows any promoter that was employed by wilder would be failing to do their job correctly if they advise him to take the deal to fight on DAZN. I don't see how you can disagree with that point.