PBC won't help DAZN hurt their business

[Curt Henning]

thats debatable. One could argue that killing a guaranteed $120 million deal because it conflicts with your own network obligations is not exactly having the "fighters best interests" at heart.....

And as we discussed, Arum as a promoter operates under different rules. If Haymon wants to act as a promoter, then he should license himself as such.....

terry...how many times are you going to kick the "if he wants to act as a promoter...blah blah blah" bucket? seriously? we havent moved past that?

youre missing the part where wilder was 4th highest paid in combat sports last year...and has a 20+ million dollar payday in a few weeks...with the potential of another one after that.......he could end up fighting AJ next year and end up making double that DAZN deal....lol

but if and when that happens i would totally expect the trolls to dispute the numbers and say wilder actually made less...because thats what they do....."wilder only made x i know cause i saw the purse" lol....

wilder and haymon are ******** on wilder...and wilder himself fully knows the deal...the risk...and what was left on the table and what is at stake......he could do better than that deal.....

[OnePunch]

terry...how many times are you going to kick the "if he wants to act as a promoter...blah blah blah" bucket? seriously? we havent moved past that?

youre missing the part where wilder was 4th highest paid in combat sports last year...and has a 20+ million dollar payday in a few weeks...with the potential of another one after that.......he could end up fighting AJ next year and end up making double that DAZN deal....lol

but if and when that happens i would totally expect the trolls to dispute the numbers and say wilder actually made less...because thats what they do....."wilder only made x i know cause i saw the purse" lol....

wilder and haymon are ******** on wilder...and wilder himself fully knows the deal...the risk...and what was left on the table and what is at stake......he could do better than that deal.....

yeah, we're beating a dead horse. Lets just agree that we disagree.

[DaNeutral.]

Yeah I get that he has a lot of resentment toward Haymon. Ok, I can understand why.

This whole back and forth is ridiculous. Terry would arrive at the same decision Haymon made. This is the prefect time to educate assclowns like DaNuetral and Sunny31 by giving us insight as to why he as a promoter would make this decision. They may not agree, which is their right. At least we'd be having an educated discussion.

Instead you have to essentially "pull teeth" to get him to admit it.

If you feel Haymon is violating the Ali Act, ok, In reality he is the defacto promoter and made the same decision.

Lets talk about why.

Assclown? Your the one defending ducks. Wilder shouldn't have to leave his network but Joshua should? Why? What you are talking about here is A side and B side and we've already ironed that one out. Joshua is the A side.

Anyway, if wilder wanted to do it on his network how come he just walked away from that DAZN offer and never came back with any counters? Rather than trying to contribute to undisputed all Finkel wanted to talk about wilders calendar and in house fighters.

That my friend is a duck, don't care why, you turn down offers and walk away without a counter offer its a duck. Especially when the narrative being pushed from team wilder and alot of the PBC shills is its Joshua that is ducking.

[Curt Henning]

yeah, we're beating a dead horse. Lets just agree that we disagree.

but youre being irrational....thats the hard part....youre not ******...youre not dumb....

but you refuse to submit to the reality that haymon is wilders defacto promoter....thus his decisions are that of an arum or a hearn.....

we get it...he isnt a promoter...hes a manager....except in reality he is the promoter....

so when haymon makes a decision for wilder is no different than one arum or hearn would make.....i know haymon isnt a promoter....you keep telling me isnt....i know hes a manager....you keep telling me he is

when will you snap into the reality of the situation for a minute?

[OnePunch]

but youre being irrational....thats the hard part....youre not ******...youre not dumb....

FACTS are not rational or irrational. They are just facts. Period.

I never questioned WHY Haymon makes the calls he makes. I already know why. Because its in HIS best interests. He made commitments to Fox and Showtime and cant have his top talent walking across the street, despite what might be in THE FIGHTERS best interests.

And all we ever hear is "but but but free agent doe", yet nobody ever seems to take advantage of that freedom, even when the offers are staggering. I find that curious. Its like an inmate on his release date not wanting to leave and telling the guards "nah, im good bruh".....

[QueensburyRules]

This has nothing to do with boxing. This is a battle over who is going to control the future of sports. Why are ESPN and Fox Sports going to allow DAZN to waltz in and try to build a new monster when ESPN and Fox can just kill it off before it grows?

ESPN and Fox Sports will spend what it takes to make sure DAZN doesn't succeed and if DAZN tries to overpay a top ESPN or Fox Sports star, ESPN and Fox Sports will spend what it takes to keep them. Boxing is just a pawn in a larger battle.

- -U just a prawn in a gumbo boil.

[The Big Dunn]

Assclown? Your the one defending ducks. Wilder shouldn't have to leave his network but Joshua should? Why? What you are talking about here is A side and B side and we've already ironed that one out. Joshua is the A side.

Anyway, if wilder wanted to do it on his network how come he just walked away from that DAZN offer and never came back with any counters? Rather than trying to contribute to undisputed all Finkel wanted to talk about wilders calendar and in house fighters.

That my friend is a duck, don't care why, you turn down offers and walk away without a counter offer its a duck. Especially when the narrative being pushed from team wilder and alot of the PBC shills is its Joshua that is ducking.

This isn’t an espn/ fox or sho/hbo situation. Putting the fight on DAZN means you lose revenue and you limit the viewing audience because the fight starts at a ridiculous 500 in the afternoon in America.

You can call it whatever you wish. I am fine with the decision that was made because I know any professional worth their money would’ve made the same decision.

I didn’t say AJ has to leave his network did I? I suggested a joint ppv. That isn’t leaving DAZN.

Just make it a joint sky and us ppv seeing as AJ already fights on sky ppv.

[The Big Dunn]

FACTS are not rational or irrational. They are just facts. Period.

I never questioned WHY Haymon makes the calls he makes. I already know why. Because its in HIS best interests. He made commitments to Fox and Showtime and cant have his top talent walking across the street, despite what might be in THE FIGHTERS best interests.

And all we ever hear is "but but but free agent doe", yet nobody ever seems to take advantage of that freedom, even when the offers are staggering. I find that curious. Its like an inmate on his release date not wanting to leave and telling the guards "nah, im good bruh".....

Actually it’s like turning down a huge offer because there is more than money at stake.

I am pretty sure you turned down deals that would’ve made you more money because you didn’t like everything.

[Real King Kong]

Isn’t that the current situation now? It’s not like they’re negotiating.

Ok, I guess both sides can blame the other for the fight not happening and call each other names...cool with me.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Ok, I guess both sides can blame the other for the fight not happening and call each other names...cool with me.

Fair enough.