Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[tumhangkz]

Manny cant bet that kind of style..how can you beat defensive style like running, afraid of being touch any part of hes body, dancing running..not boxing at all..peace

[ADP02]

Manny often uses the same refs in his Vegas fights.

Kenny Bayless has been the referee for more Manny fights then Floyd fights in the last couple of years.

****in idiot.

Manny did get robbed in Vegas yet you call me the idiot?


As for the ref, it doesn't matter if your style is like Manny because he is more aggressive and does not foul like Floyd does to save his life. Again, most can tell that difference. You for some reason can't.
I called it BEFORE the fight. WHile Floyd fans said it will not happen, I showed gifs of Manny vs Bradley as an example and stated that Floyd will foul while Manny goes in for his combinations and Kenny Bayless will do what Floyd wants him to do. "STOP, STOP" then reset.

[Johnwoo8686]

Manny did get robbed in Vegas yet you call me the idiot?


As for the ref, it doesn't matter if your style is like Manny because he is more aggressive and does not foul like Floyd does to save his life. Again, most can tell that difference. You for some reason can't.
I called it BEFORE the fight. WHile Floyd fans said it will not happen, I showed gifs of Manny vs Bradley as an example and stated that Floyd will foul while Manny goes in for his combinations and Kenny Bayless will do what Floyd wants him to do. "STOP, STOP" then reset.

The judges who robbed Manny were not judging this fight. And one of the judges who robbed Manny nearly robbed Floyd in Vegas. You quote Juan Manuel Marquez saying "you need to Knockout Floyd in Vegas in order to beat him" but Marquez said the same thing about Manny once before.

And clinching is NOT illegal, excessive clinching is. Muhammad Ali has clinched more in one round than Floyd did in that entire fight and is regarded as one of the best fighters of all time. So again quit your whining.

[ADP02]

The judges who robbed Manny were not judging this fight. And one of the judges who robbed Manny nearly robbed Floyd in Vegas. You quote Juan Manuel Marquez saying "you need to Knockout Floyd in Vegas in order to beat him" but Marquez said the same thing about Manny once before.

And clinching is NOT illegal, excessive clinching is. Muhammad Ali has clinched more in one round than Floyd did in that entire fight and is regarded as one of the best fighters of all time. So again quit your whining.

Sorry but it does not change the fact that Manny was robbed in Vegas before. Imagine that Marquez, even gave Manny little chance in Vegas even after his statements. Its because Marquez knows that the most protected fighter will always be Floyd in Vegas.

You do not know what you are talking about. Commentators in all broadcasts brought up the fouls made by Floyd and said the ref needs to do something about it. If Floyd would get hard warnings from the get go then a point deducted, the fight would have been much more entertaining. Even casual fans noticed yet you didn't.

All you keep on doing is protecting your hero even when its obvious.

[Johnwoo8686]

Sorry but it does not change the fact that Manny was robbed in Vegas before. Imagine that Marquez, even gave Manny little chance in Vegas even after his statements. Its because Marquez knows that the most protected fighter will always be Floyd in Vegas.

You do not know what you are talking about. Commentators in all broadcasts brought up the fouls made by Floyd and said the ref needs to do something about it. If Floyd would get hard warnings from the get go then a point deducted, the fight would have been much more entertaining. Even casual fans noticed yet you didn't.

All you keep on doing is protecting your hero even when its obvious.

Although Manny beat Bradley the fight was closer than the commentators would have you believe. The "slow mo" vids for that fight will prove that but sadly hardcore Pacquiao fans don't post the slow motion videos of Pacquiao Bradley on here. They'd rather believe the only times Manny has ever lost were when he was KO'd.
Marquez has also said for years that he thought Mayweather was a superior fighter to Pacquiao. There you go again, picking and choosing which facts you want to site. Marquez has said things like "Mayweather is more intelligent than Pacquiao" but you don't bring up that quote.
Of course I noticed the clinching but again it was not excessive. Floyd held a little more than once a round and Manny even initiated a clinch in the fight so not ALL the clinches were by Floyd. Casual fans don't watch the sport on a regular basis, thats why they are called "casuals" so they clearly won't understand the rules. You sound like a casual yourself.

[AllBoxingAD]

Manny did get robbed in Vegas yet you call me the idiot?


As for the ref, it doesn't matter if your style is like Manny because he is more aggressive and does not foul like Floyd does to save his life. Again, most can tell that difference. You for some reason can't.
I called it BEFORE the fight. WHile Floyd fans said it will not happen, I showed gifs of Manny vs Bradley as an example and stated that Floyd will foul while Manny goes in for his combinations and Kenny Bayless will do what Floyd wants him to do. "STOP, STOP" then reset.

When JMM got robbed against Pac were you crying about Vegas judges?

Of course not.

Manny uses Bayless more then Floyd as of late. Roach said he wanted Bayless himself. Arum said he had no problems with Bayless. Dont cry about it now.

This is what happens when people dont know boxing. They blame the refs, judges, and come up with conspiracy theories.

Why couldnt Manny cut off the ring?

Why couldnt Manny walk through his jabs?

Why was Manny not able to dictate the tempo?

How was Floyd able to nullify Manny's usually arkward angles?

How did Floyd manage to time Manny from the very first round?

Can you discuss any of those things intelligently or does your knowledge begin and end with crying about the judges/refs? Because the former has more to do with the outcome then the latter.

[brickcityboxing]

Pacquiao was just never that good to begin with... His biggest victories were won the night before the fight on the scales. Marquez outboxed him for 36 rounds and put him on ice 6 rounds later. Floyd schooled him 9-3... Morales schooled him until Manny and his team got him at the right weight coming off a loss. It was all smoke and mirrors ... a sham... his whole career above 130 is a farce. The day the truth comes out about his steroid use and people come forward with the truth wil be the best day this site has ever seen... I can guarantee that happens within the next 5-10 years...

[ADP02]

If you have to watch a "slow mo" vid to determine if Manny was the true winner of a round that means his work was NOT CLEAN. Fights happen in real time not slow motion.

Although Manny beat Bradley the fight was closer than the commentators would have you believe. The "slow mo" vids for that fight will prove that but sadly hardcore Pacquiao fans don't post the slow motion videos of Pacquiao Bradley on here. They'd rather believe the only times Manny has ever lost were when he was KO'd.
Marquez has also said for years that he thought Mayweather was a superior fighter to Pacquiao. There you go again, picking and choosing which facts you want to site. Marquez has said things like "Mayweather is more intelligent than Pacquiao" but you don't bring up that quote.
Of course I noticed the clinching but again it was not excessive. Floyd held a little more than once a round and Manny even initiated a clinch in the fight so not ALL the clinches were by Floyd. Casual fans don't watch the sport on a regular basis, thats why they are called "casuals" so they clearly won't understand the rules. You sound like a casual yourself.

Wait a sec. You said we shouldn't use slo-mo (see your first post) but then you want me to check it out in slo-mo for the Bradley fight?

Marquez thought it would be tough for Manny because Floyd does NOT fight. So that style plus the fight being in Vegas, Manny had no chance unless its a KO and like I said, not easy to KO when someone fights very defensive. Another example is Clottey who turtled up. So not an easy task when a fighter fights very defensively.

Casuals and non-casuals (heard commentary, for example) alike said this. People who came over to my place, as an example, saw this. Asked if its legal to do all that fouling as it was obvious to see what Floyd was doing. After the fight, the commentary all over the media was about Floyd's hugging, it included all his fouling. Hugging, pushing off, head lock, bending below the waist, ......... Comedians brought it up weeks after the fight. It brought down the entertainment value of the fight to a joke.




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[The Big Dunn]

Wait a sec. You said we shouldn't use slo-mo (see your first post) but then you want me to check it out in slo-mo for the Bradley fight?

Marquez thought it would be tough for Manny because Floyd does NOT fight. So that style plus the fight being in Vegas, Manny had no chance unless its a KO and like I said, not easy to KO when someone fights very defensive. Another example is Clottey who turtled up. So not an easy task when a fighter fights very defensively.

Casuals and non-casuals (heard commentary, for example) alike said this. People who came over to my place, as an example, saw this. Asked if its legal to do all that fouling as it was obvious to see what Floyd was doing. After the fight, the commentary all over the media was about Floyd's hugging, it included all his fouling. Hugging, pushing off, head lock, bending below the waist, ......... Comedians brought it up weeks after the fight. It brought down the entertainment value of the fight to a joke.




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They also brought up Floyd winning by a wide margin. One can question whether it was entertaining or not. there is no question who won the fight.

Whether you were at the edge of your seat or passed out, Floyd won the fight without doing much because his opponent did less.

[ADP02]

When JMM got robbed against Pac were you crying about Vegas judges?

Of course not.

Manny uses Bayless more then Floyd as of late. Roach said he wanted Bayless himself. Arum said he had no problems with Bayless. Dont cry about it now.

This is what happens when people dont know boxing. They blame the refs, judges, and come up with conspiracy theories.

Why couldnt Manny cut off the ring?

Why couldnt Manny walk through his jabs?

Why was Manny not able to dictate the tempo?

How was Floyd able to nullify Manny's usually arkward angles?

How did Floyd manage to time Manny from the very first round?

Can you discuss any of those things intelligently or does your knowledge begin and end with crying about the judges/refs? Because the former has more to do with the outcome then the latter.

Marquez 3
My wife and I missed the live fight of Marquez 3. We heard from people like you that Marquez should have won. We BOTH said, that's not good. If Marquez deserved it then he should get the win. I then watched the replay. It was close but I believed that Manny won.

Floyd vs Manny:
If Floyd is allowed to hug, head lock, push off, bend below the waist, ....... then that makes it much more difficult to do the things that Manny wants to do. For example, Manny DID get Floyd against the ropes and DID throw combinations BUT Floyd would then bend below the waist and reach out and grab Manny. Sometimes Floyd would move away but also push off, as an example.

Floyd did what he did for a reason. It would make it difficult for Manny to mount a consistent offense and the ref allowed it.