Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[radioraheem]

No 2 fights are alike.

The point is that the poster was saying that movement gave the opponent trouble in hitting Floyd and that is why Floyd should get credit for ring generalship. I gave good examples of others using movement and in Peterson's case, he got no credit for it as I showed with the judges scorecards.

Be honest.
If Floyd did exactly what Peterson did, you think the Vegas judges would give Garcia 5-1 and 6-0 scores in those first 6 rounds?
You guys keep on avoiding the question because YOU KNOW THE ANSWER!
No way would the Vegas judges put Floyd in a 5-1 and 6-0 hole!

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But Floyd did NOT do what Peterson did, so you have no point. When someone says he gave Pacquiao movement -- yes, movement in ducking and dodging punches while usually being in front of him. He was blocking series of his punches while being stationary even.

Vegas judges aren't in love with Floyd, and there's been more than one fight where he's had scorecards that were questionable (CJ Ross). Also, Vegas judges are sometimes unpredictable.

[ADP02]

But Floyd did NOT do what Peterson did, so you have no point. When someone says he gave Pacquiao movement -- yes, movement in ducking and dodging punches while usually being in front of him. He was blocking series of his punches while being stationary even.

Vegas judges aren't in love with Floyd, and there's been more than one fight where he's had scorecards that were questionable (CJ Ross). Also, Vegas judges are sometimes unpredictable.

So you are not going to be honest and answer my question. You do not even need a link with proof for this one. Just a response from you ..... but you can't because YOU KNOW THE TRUTH!

Floyd blocking? You mean hugging? Head locks? Pushing off? Manny did much better defensively since he didn't need to do all the fouling Floyd had to to get Manny off of him.

[Easy Work.]

So you are not going to be honest and answer my question. You do not even need a link with proof for this one. Just a response from you ..... but you can't because YOU KNOW THE TRUTH!

Floyd blocking? You mean hugging? Head locks? Pushing off? Manny did much better defensively since he didn't need to do all the fouling Floyd had to to get Manny off of him.

[radioraheem]

So you are not going to be honest and answer my question. You do not even need a link with proof for this one. Just a response from you ..... but you can't because YOU KNOW THE TRUTH!

Floyd blocking? You mean hugging? Head locks? Pushing off? Manny did much better defensively since he didn't need to do all the fouling Floyd had to to get Manny off of him.

Peterson cannot and did not regularly and consistently do... And no, Vegas judges wouldn't have treated him kindly if he used Peterson's poor man's defensive tactics.

[Johnwoo8686]

Close fight? I explained it to you but it appears that I need to explain it further. My examples were good. You just do not want to understand or something.

Again, do NOT look at the scores of the entire fight. Peterson was using movement and making Garcia frustrated in the first 6 rounds or so. Peterson and Garcia did little but Peterson thought that his movement, defense and offensive output was enough and expected to get credit for it. Well, due to his movement, it definitely brought down Garcia's output to almost nothing but the judges still gave the aggressor Garcia credit and NO credit for Peterson. NONE.

Again, to be extra super duper clear, I am talking about the first 6 rounds. Get it? Look below. Now that you are seeing it with your own eyes, did Peterson get any credit from the judges? NO! Watch the fight if you have to. Be honest. If that was FLoyd doing the exact same thing, would you think the Vegas judges would have given Garcia 5-1 or 6-0 and Floyd would get no credit? NO WAY!!!





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I see the point you're trying to make but it's wrong. I'm not going to go back and rewatch Garcia Peterson but that fight was a majority decision. I'm not going by the first six rounds, I'm going by the entire fight. Garcia BARELY won and many thought he really lost. A fight doesn't end at 6 rounds, it ends at 12. Plus Peterson's punch output was too low which is probably why he lost. He barely outlanded Garcia. If that was Floyd he may or may not have gotten the benefit of the doubt from the judges but like I said I believe Peterson was the true winner in that fight as I believe Floyd is the true winner in his fight with Manny. The DIFFERENCE between those fights is that Floyd did more comparatively than Peterson did.

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Peterson cannot and did not regularly and consistently do... And no, Vegas judges wouldn't have treated him kindly if he used Peterson's poor man's defensive tactics.

So you can't even be honest. Just to be clear, so you said that Garcia would have been given a 6-0 and 5-1 scoring edge against Floyd? Meaning, Vegas judges would have put Floyd in the hole and had to more than likely get knock downs to come back into the fight?


If you say that Vegas wouldn't have treated Floyd good, well, the last few fights, they had the opportunity and failed miserably. Its not just the judges. The refs did their own share of damage. So what you are saying is BS. There were enough close rounds that they gave to Floyd over Manny and Maidana and there were also rounds where I'm scratching my head why they even gave the round to Floyd yet the Vegas judges did.

Opponents like Maidana, Manny, Castillo and others had to work to win their rounds. Floyd got the close non-combative rounds almost every time. So again, its BS.



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[brickcityboxing]

No 2 fights are alike.

The point is that the poster was saying that movement gave the opponent trouble in hitting Floyd and that is why Floyd should get credit for ring generalship. I gave good examples of others using movement and in Peterson's case, he got no credit for it as I showed with the judges scorecards.

Be honest.
If Floyd did exactly what Peterson did, you think the Vegas judges would give Garcia 5-1 and 6-0 scores in those first 6 rounds?
You guys keep on avoiding the question because YOU KNOW THE ANSWER!
No way would the Vegas judges put Floyd in a 5-1 and 6-0 hole!




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Some fights are alike... Garcia and Peterson just so happens to be a fight that couldn't be any more different from May vs Pac but I'm not expecting you to understand that.

[brickcityboxing]

Notice how they ignore any post that speaks facts...The ones who are trolling here,look at their post history,they have nothing else to talk about

Oh it has been duly noted... serious question though. I can't seem to find the press row scores. You usually find them on google for most big fights I can't seem to find it for this one. I'm not one for conspiracy's but ... you think maybe even Mayweather decided it was best they don't let that info out because it would hurt the possibility of a rematch?

[ADP02]

Some fights are alike... Garcia and Peterson just so happens to be a fight that couldn't be any more different from May vs Pac but I'm not expecting you to understand that.

I think you needed to read the last few posts to understand. Initially it was about the Floyd fan saying "Floyd's movement gave him the ring generalship" credit. I used Peterson and Lara to point out that you need to do more than just move.

then I added this:
Vegas being bias. If Floyd did the same as Peterson in those first 6 rounds, I bet you that no way the Vegas judges would have given Garcia a 5-1 and 6-0 lead over Floyd. NO WAY!!!

[brickcityboxing]

Told you guys Floyd is a god. There is always a reason why Floyd cannot be hit. In this sequence even if floyd missed, coming from brickthecityboxing it's pac's fault he couldn't pull the trigger lol

Floyd never makes mistakes hahaha

These dumb schmucks are the dumbest fan base ever existed. I swear lol

You have to be the single most dumb.... whatever... I said "Floyd missed badly". I'll make it even more clear "he looked ****** throwing that punch" but the reason why Manny lost and will never beat a guy like Mayweather is that Floyd rarely makes any mistakes and if you miss the opportunity to capitalize on them like Pacquiao did in that very sequence another opportunity might not present itself for the remainder of the fight.

Pac could've made Floyd pay right there, dearly, like a said before he could've even dropped him. Floyd was way out of position defensively and was way off balance it wouldn't have took much of a punch to drop him... instead Pac hopped backwards and allowed Floyd to reset his feet. opportunity squandered.