- - Lotta smallish anthropoids defiling this board.
For reference to the actual subject as a point in fact, Dempsey's retirement was only a few years before Louis debut. Dempsey's primary pre pro boxing was in mining camps, bars and saloons, often bare fisted when not with unpadded skin tight leather gloves as Kid Blackie. Joe was a storied Amateur in the middle of The Great Depression when he turned pro to much acclaim. Jack much younger than Joe, his first recorded weight was around 160, where at his retirement he was in the 190s. Joe slightly bigger overall turned pro in the 180s where he maxed out at 220s at retirement as a much older fighter than Jack.
Coming up today, they'd likely have current ama and backgrounds before turning pro at a uniform age of say 20. I'd say Joe could dry out to start at LH for a title before moving to cruiser that he would dominate much like Usyk before moving to heavy, say age 24 debuting at 215 and maxing out age 36 at about 235.
Jack could make supermiddle drying out, then LH, and then Cruiser, and then Heavy where he turns pro around 210. What with the $$$ being made for two KO artists heavy, I'd say he maxes at 225 much like Usyk.
I'd also say what with the International ama and pro boxing explosion, they would be subject to more talent than in their day, yet still able to carve out excellent careers as exciting heavies.
For reference to the actual subject as a point in fact, Dempsey's retirement was only a few years before Louis debut. Dempsey's primary pre pro boxing was in mining camps, bars and saloons, often bare fisted when not with unpadded skin tight leather gloves as Kid Blackie. Joe was a storied Amateur in the middle of The Great Depression when he turned pro to much acclaim. Jack much younger than Joe, his first recorded weight was around 160, where at his retirement he was in the 190s. Joe slightly bigger overall turned pro in the 180s where he maxed out at 220s at retirement as a much older fighter than Jack.
Coming up today, they'd likely have current ama and backgrounds before turning pro at a uniform age of say 20. I'd say Joe could dry out to start at LH for a title before moving to cruiser that he would dominate much like Usyk before moving to heavy, say age 24 debuting at 215 and maxing out age 36 at about 235.
Jack could make supermiddle drying out, then LH, and then Cruiser, and then Heavy where he turns pro around 210. What with the $$$ being made for two KO artists heavy, I'd say he maxes at 225 much like Usyk.
I'd also say what with the International ama and pro boxing explosion, they would be subject to more talent than in their day, yet still able to carve out excellent careers as exciting heavies.
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