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  • them_apples
    replied to Most Feared HW
    Is it deliberate lying

    read this

    “”Yes. His connections with the Italian mob are well documented. Even when he died in an airplane crash in 1969, he was accompanied by the eldest son of a well known mafia figure (Lew Farrell). Rocky's manager (Al...
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    Last edited by them_apples; 01-12-2025, 01:02 PM.

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  • Honestly, I am gonna hold off on my size comparisons until I get back in the ring and test out my new fitness vs larger heavier fighters. If I find I can strategize to beat them - then I will lean further to the right - if I find the weight and size is too much to overcome perhaps I will rethink my...
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  • I was compromising with him

    I think Marciano would knock Usyk out. I don’t think Usyk can hold him off. I don’t think usyks style of defense would work. Marciano would target his arms. This is just my opinion though. There are some who think because Marciano is 187 lbs he’s not heavy...
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  • Forget it then. Marciano is too weak because he’s not heavy enough. Maybe if he bulked up he would have a chance....
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  • them_apples
    started a topic Most brutal body punchers of all time

    Most brutal body punchers of all time

    Underated, one if the nastiest body punchers I personally have seen is Ray Robinson.

    he lands with such leverage, timing and accuracy in vulnerable areas. Watching him break Lamottas ribs (I recall he broke his ribs at one point late in the fight ) was pain to watch. The way he times his...
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    Last edited by them_apples; 01-12-2025, 12:42 PM.

  • nah thats a foolish take.

    you got me this time, but it doesn’t scale around the board. Sad to see you act so childish actually. Its like you won a game of cards and now your gonna beat me at chess. Let’s be rational here. If this was you, you...
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    Last edited by them_apples; 01-11-2025, 07:27 PM.

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  • and if you type this on google, or any search engine. or any gpt engine. it will say Langford scaled at 185 at his highest.

    So stop acting like this isn't a special case with Langford. I've never heard anyone speak of Langford at 205. not saying it isn't true, but I have never heard th...
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  • you make me source everything anyways. which I end up doing. You did just now. don't act like you expose me on the daily. I corrected myself within an hour. you have done the same exact thing....
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  • so either Langford was over 200 lbs or Bill tate was much lighter then?...
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  • what difference does it make, last time I posted a screen shot and page of a book and you STILL said I was wrong!!! and making things up!!!

    I used copilot and chat gpt. took the info. it was right about the other bouts and I mistakenly didn't check the last one. making me look like a liar....
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    Last edited by them_apples; 01-11-2025, 05:25 PM.
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  • What do we actually know about Sam Langford

    I realize for everything readable on Sam Langford there is another report that goes against it. from his weight, his height - who he fought, when he fought them and who won.

    He has been said to have had around 700 bouts. He fought in the newspaper era. For those not familiar with this -...
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    Last edited by them_apples; 01-11-2025, 05:06 PM.

  • style is extremely important. I won't argue with this...
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  • but 185 lb Rock Totally out muscled the same 204 lb man.

    Now lets just say it's not a fact that Marciano can compete. but do you not see that it isn't absurd to at least give him a chance? to not totally write him off?...
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  • You don't think I wouldn't assume you would instantly check boxrec? or course you would

    The truth of the matter is we don't know anything about Langford because he was a black fighter fighting in the newspaper era....
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  • boxrec has this:

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    seems like Langford gave up a massive size and weight dis-advantage. and registered a knockout

    Tate is 6 ft 6 1/2

    Langford is 5 ft 7

    Tate (I believe) was 230 lbs or so.
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    Last edited by them_apples; 01-11-2025, 04:55 PM.

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  • I actually apologize, I am getting totally conflicting reports on everything involving Sam Langford. I did not deliberately lie. the internet just doesn't have it out for Langford.

    Did Langford knock out big bill? how much did he weigh? and what was Bills weight? I am asking a question...
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  • this is what I am saying you just checked boxrec but boxrec get's it wrong or ommits things.

    Also why didn't you just read the the 1908 bout? he dropped a dude with 35 lbs on him multiple times. Why would you not post this?

    I did get the date wrong though. I admit this. I wasn't...
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  • sorry there is conflicting numbers on boxrec and written accounts.

    ​ is the date

    He floored Ferguson numerous times and gave up 35 lbs(boxrec). and 50 lbs in the first bout weighing only 142 but this bout isn' t even...
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    Last edited by them_apples; 01-11-2025, 04:43 PM.

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  • well Hagler did spar heavyweights. I doubt they were beating the **** out of him

    Hagler won't beat Joe Louis or Ali, but Dubois isn't very good. I wouldn't be totally sold on him ****ing up Hagler....
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  • yeah but whens the last time I said a 126er could take down a 240 lb heavyweight? The extent of my argument is based off of guys who did beat heavyweights while weighing much less, and also just within the actual heavyweight division.

    204 lb Louis, with a track record of knocking out men...
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    Last edited by them_apples; 01-11-2025, 04:28 PM.
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