Greater fighter: Fury or Andre Ward?

[Boxing_1013]

I agree with everything you contributed to this thread.
It’s not like ward was putting masterclasses out there lol. His best wins were actually awful to watch. Yes he always find ways to grind it out but they’re really awful and uninspiring wins. So if his few fans are still wondering why he never reach superstardom or only got 1 ppv fight or why he doesn’t get the recognition albeit achieving a lot, all they gotta do is pick any of his semi big fight and watch it. A lot of 7-5 fights, he arguably lost against Kovalev I... and huge asterisk in the II as it was a low blow that ended it. Only one he completely dominated was a drain dawson at 168.

Thank you man, much appreciated.

Yes good point about Dawson...that is yet another official W for Andre...but the official W looks much better than it really was in my eyes, and I think many agree with us.

I honestly just think it is rather bizarre that so many seem to give him a pass for fighting all of those fights at home, and anyone who knows boxing, would know that he got very favorable cards, and favorable reffing in those fights.

Just seems logical to me to say - 'well if he didn't have so much help here, what type of fighter would he really be'...guys don't always have to fight away from home...but if you fight always at home, and almost always have controversy in your fights/wins, and then average like 90/10 close rounds when it should obviously be 50/50 in a neutral environment...and you have a penchant for having a lot of close rounds.

I mean I just don't know how some can be SO high on Ward after factoring all of that in...but to each his own I suppose.

[Fat_asian]

I think they both fall short of the reign by w klitchko, bhop, Mayweather, Pacquiao, etc. They were a treat to us taken too soon. People don't realize fury was doing this since he was five, and Andre also fought with a detached muscle in one of his arms making him a one handed fighter.

[Imaboxingfan]

Ward fans keep saying he cleaned out 168, but that's not true.

Lucien Bute was rated by many as the best SMW in the world at that time, and Ward refused to fight him. He also refused to fight Adonis Stevenson.



Note: Froch beating Bute does not count as as a win for Ward.

But its also not wards fault that lucien bute did Not enter the super 6.

[A-Wolf]

Fury.

Won on the road with out having to fix all the advantages in his favor.

Was man enough to take that challenge as well.

Ward benefited from dubious decisions while Fury suffered because them too.

Fury has boxing skills, Ward is a spoiler who uses illegal tactics


Fury is levels above Ward.

^^^^^
One of the more bitter, hate inspired posts seen here in a long time.

[A-Wolf]

Fixed it for you.

I doubt you believe a word of what you originally typed. This little follow up is helping confirm that.

[A-Wolf]

What parts do you disagree with.

All of it. I can't stand Ward but don't be ridiculous.

[kafkod]

But its also not wards fault that lucien bute did Not enter the super 6.

Bute not being invited to enter the Super 6 doesn't count as a win for Ward either.

Bute was the undefeated IBF champion and Ring No1 SMW. Ward turned down several offers to fight him for the undisputed SMW crown after the Super 6 ended.

Ward never cleaned out 168.

[DreamFighter]

Maybe stop eating glue?

What didnt work for you, might not be the best think to suggest to others, including fury.

[kafkod]

Ward would not leave his hometown, and Bute would not leave Canada.

Canada was where the fight would make most money, because Bute was a big name in Canada back then. But did he even get an offer from Ward's side to fight in the USA?

[Bitedown]

Maybe stop eating glue?

Soooo you’re literally going to act like Ward didn’t dominate 168 division? He really didn’t have close fights even...Ward was a highly skilled boxer and had one of the best boxing brains in the sport...

If you can’t see that then you don’t know boxing flat out