Greater fighter: Fury or Andre Ward?

[LacedUp]

AJ's fight Wlad came out of retirement. It was a good fight especially AJ with so little fights. At HW Fury has the better two wins than anybody now. Clear wins

I don't know why you're talking about AJ, but Wlad wasn't coming out of retirement for that fight if that's what you're saying?

Fury beat Wlad which is a better win by far than any win on Ward's resume. Even Wilder is a better win you could easily argue. Or at least just as good as Kovalev.

[LacedUp]

Nonsense. I can guarantee that all 4 that I mentioned go. We can revisit this when they get voted in if u like. Froch and Kessler are absolute guarantees.

And even then, we both know all four are multi time world champs and were great fighters. Certainly better wins than than two title fight win Fury when considering their body of work.

They are not guarantees at all, and certainly the HOF would have to lower its standards dramatically if people like Arthur Abraham would get in, let's be real.

I don't think Abraham was a great fighter. He was a good middleweight and an average super middle (for the top level) who basically lost in the premier league and decided to be content being the division 1 champ for the rest of his career.

He will never get into tthe HOF, and sadly neither will Kessler or Kovalev.

In order to get into the HOF it's not enough to scramble some world titles together against meaningless opponents.

[Godsfly]

I don't know why you're talking about AJ, but Wlad wasn't coming out of retirement for that fight if that's what you're saying?

Fury beat Wlad which is a better win by far than any win on Ward's resume. Even Wilder is a better win you could easily argue. Or at least just as good as Kovalev.

Let's say a aging wlad was a better win then kovalov. Let's say wilder was a better win then a proven time and time again froch. (Which I disagree with but I will gift you those) who else does fury have? Chisora? Ward has bika, kessler, abraham, miranda. Dawson. moved up in weight fought Barrera and kovalov two of the top light heavyweights at that time. With fury theres been 0 consistency.....to place fury over ward at this point is boarder line remedial.....the most deluded of gibberish 🤣

[KillaMane26]

How many good wins does Fury have to be in the same sentence as Ward?

[Godsfly]

Laced up....even when gifting fury the wilder fight for being a better win then anything on ward's resume, fury still falls extremely flat. But let me show u how I can ungift even that win......that win over wilder in no way was better then that froch win. Wilder had beaten Stiverne, ortiz, and Breazeale. Froch......a undefeated prime freaking Pascal. taylor, dirrell, abraham, kessler, later on bute.....but wilder was the greater win? Again. Deluded gibberish.....no way in hell is fury close to ward at this point.

[billeau2]

Did many legitimate boxing ppl really think Grant would crush Lewis?

I dont remember that, yeah he was regarded well but in the UK at least he was a good contender but just a build up for the long awaited tyson v Lewis.

Some most certainly did...Maybe saying Many was a stretch lol. See I hang out with the trombone and suddenly... Just kidding Rusty. Seriously though here is what I remember: Being suprised, because by that time Lewis had won me quite a few beers, and such...thinking that people are really what the youth today call "haters."

[billeau2]

They are not guarantees at all, and certainly the HOF would have to lower its standards dramatically if people like Arthur Abraham would get in, let's be real.

I don't think Abraham was a great fighter. He was a good middleweight and an average super middle (for the top level) who basically lost in the premier league and decided to be content being the division 1 champ for the rest of his career.

He will never get into tthe HOF, and sadly neither will Kessler or Kovalev.

In order to get into the HOF it's not enough to scramble some world titles together against meaningless opponents.

Actually the HOF is a joke...But your point about the skills of this group I would agree. Tough and excellent fighters, I was hoping Kovalev might make it. Abraham was never that good, but had a good punch and was tough as nails.

[Stev3]

Fury because HW boxing is where it's at

[LacedUp]

Let's say a aging wlad was a better win then kovalov. Let's say wilder was a better win then a proven time and time again froch. (Which I disagree with but I will gift you those) who else does fury have? Chisora? Ward has bika, kessler, abraham, miranda. Dawson. moved up in weight fought Barrera and kovalov two of the top light heavyweights at that time. With fury theres been 0 consistency.....to place fury over ward at this point is boarder line remedial.....the most deluded of gibberish 🤣

You literally said exactly what I said. That fury's best is better and Ward's strength in depth is better

That's literally exactly what i said.

[LacedUp]

Laced up....even when gifting fury the wilder fight for being a better win then anything on ward's resume, fury still falls extremely flat. But let me show u how I can ungift even that win......that win over wilder in no way was better then that froch win. Wilder had beaten Stiverne, ortiz, and Breazeale. Froch......a undefeated prime freaking Pascal. taylor, dirrell, abraham, kessler, later on bute.....but wilder was the greater win? Again. Deluded gibberish.....no way in hell is fury close to ward at this point.

I said Klitschko is a better win than anything on Ward's resume.

If you deny that then you're as delusional as everyone knows you are already.