Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: No More Step-Aside Deals For Canelo!

[SteveM]

lol, green k sent for trying but next time you have to try and sound like STAXONDECK... hahaha

Ta very much - who he?

[kafkod]

This is what I like to see from GGG and K2!

Have to push the pressure on Canelo and Oscar, don't let them dictate, for them into a fight don't sit back and "HOPE" they pick you. GGG is already considered "The Better Fighter" by most fans and boxing media so NO he DON'T NEED CANELO! In fact if Canelo don't fight him that is a WIN FOR HIM!

So respect to GGG and K2, keep the pressure on him then eventually the fans, as well as boxing media and the network he fights on will also apply pressure. If Lara kept his mouth close and did not crash Canelo pressure he wouldn't have gotten his fight.

The problem is not Canelo, I'm a Canelo fan I respect the young Warrior, I think if it was up to him Canelo will fight ANYBODY but I think it is Oscar who is protecting him. Oscar admittedly said he did not want the Canelo vs Lara fight and yeah he may have been right because Canelo did not look good in that fight but it was Canelo who stepped up and he don't get enough credit for that regardless if you thought he lost to Lara

I agree with you on this. Canelo is just getting on with his training and letting Oscar and co worry about Golovkin. Maybe if the fans start needling him he'll put his foot down like he did over Lara and decide for himself that he wants to fight Golovkin at 160.

He's a good strong young fighter, so you never know, if he stopped cutting down to 155 he might have what it takes to give GGG a problem.

[HeroBando]

It took two ****ing years to realise that taking step aside fees actually involves you know, stepping aside?

****ing clowns.

Not indefinitely, ****** POS. Those are on a fight by fight basis, get it?

[SteveM]

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I agree with you on this. Canelo is just getting on with his training and letting Oscar and co worry about Golovkin. Maybe if the fans start needling him he'll put his foot down like he did over Lara and decide for himself that he wants to fight Golovkin at 160.

He's a good strong young fighter, so you never know, if he stopped cutting down to 155 he might have what it takes to give GGG a problem.

The reason I want to see this fight is because it's much closer to being a 50/50 fight than most on here give Canelo credit for.
GGG's got a good chin and reasonable defence but his strength is attack and he is wide open to counters much more of the time than he should be. Canelo has fantastic defensive reflexes and great counter punch timing.
This fight has appeal whereas Ward/Kovalev has intrigue - there's a difference.

[bigdunny1]

In other words, Canelo IS saying that he won't defend his title against GGG without a catchweight.

Defending his title means fighting for it, not saying "Ok, you won't fight at my weight. No problem, the belt is yours. What time are you coming round to pick it up?"

It took you a long time to get there, but you made it in the end!

Again you keep bringing up the title like it means anything. lol It doesn't. The prize is Canelo NOT the belt. If he wants to fight Canelo period it will be at his weight not going to be dictated by GGG. If GGG wants the title he don't even need to fight Canelo at a catchweight. Canelo, Cotto, Manny, Floyd are all bigger then any paper title. And Canelo is no more a Middleweight then Manny was a jr Middleweight. Or Floyd was a Jr Middleweight. Both guys won belts at those weights via catchweights, Manny vacated his nobody care and Jr Middleweight wasn't the only time Manny won a belt at a catchweight or defended a belt at a catchweight. Floyd the alpha belt orgs broke their own rules and said he didn't have to defend against the mandatory and was allowed to win the belt at a catchweight and then defend 154 lb belts at not even a catchweight but a entire different division for 2 years Floyd defended his 154 belt at 147. Fury just trashed his belt after he won it. None of this is knew in boxing. For young fighters it means something. But when you get to the PPV level and have won numerous belts it really doesn't. And GGG knows this which is why he keeps giving out step asides instead of going and getting that belt.

[aldo5408]

Why are people mad that GGG takes step aside money? Looks like everyone crying about it is from the "boxing is a business" school. What is better than getting paid, for doing nothing?

"Boxing a business doe".

True but one cant help but wonder if gg would have been WBC champ by now. and thats what his team says is most important (unify)

[bigdunny1]

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I agree with you on this. Canelo is just getting on with his training and letting Oscar and co worry about Golovkin. Maybe if the fans start needling him he'll put his foot down like he did over Lara and decide for himself that he wants to fight Golovkin at 160.

He's a good strong young fighter, so you never know, if he stopped cutting down to 155 he might have what it takes to give GGG a problem.

Yeah and if not for GGG's terrible management he probably has the balls to do what he said he would last year and go to 154 to fight Manny and Floyd and fight Canelo at 155. Maybe if fans weren't so dumb and blind and stop defending the bait and switch K2 is selling and actually put their foot down and said no to the no named bums like Wade GGG keeps fighting they would pressure him to do what other great fighters did and left a sorry azzz division to challenge themselves. 160 has been hot garbage for a long time now with much better fighters at 154 and 168. Even GGG acknowledged this which is why he said he would go to either weight to get better fights. But then when push come to shove he didn't? My beef ain't with GGG it's clearly the ones picking his fights for him that are the problem.

[SteveM]

Again you keep bringing up the title like it means anything. lol It doesn't. The prize is Canelo NOT the belt. If he wants to fight Canelo period it will be at his weight not going to be dictated by GGG. If GGG wants the title he don't even need to fight Canelo at a catchweight. Canelo, Cotto, Manny, Floyd are all bigger then any paper title. And Canelo is no more a Middleweight then Manny was a jr Middleweight. Or Floyd was a Jr Middleweight. Both guys won belts at those weights via catchweights, Manny vacated his nobody care and Jr Middleweight wasn't the only time Manny won a belt at a catchweight or defended a belt at a catchweight. Floyd the alpha belt orgs broke their own rules and said he didn't have to defend against the mandatory and was allowed to win the belt at a catchweight and then defend 154 lb belts at not even a catchweight but a entire different division for 2 years Floyd defended his 154 belt at 147. Fury just trashed his belt after he won it. None of this is knew in boxing. For young fighters it means something. But when you get to the PPV level and have won numerous belts it really doesn't. And GGG knows this which is why he keeps giving out step asides instead of going and getting that belt.

So what is he then? Wait a second - if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and looks like a duck - wtf are we dealing with here?

1. He is lineal mw champ of the world.
2. He fights at 155 = mw (he no longer fights at LMW - why?)
3. He blows up to 172-176 on fight night

Excuse me - he is a duck, um, I mean a MW.

[SteveM]

Again you keep bringing up the title like it means anything. lol It doesn't. The prize is Canelo NOT the belt. If he wants to fight Canelo period it will be at his weight not going to be dictated by GGG. If GGG wants the title he don't even need to fight Canelo at a catchweight. Canelo, Cotto, Manny, Floyd are all bigger then any paper title. And Canelo is no more a Middleweight then Manny was a jr Middleweight. Or Floyd was a Jr Middleweight. Both guys won belts at those weights via catchweights, Manny vacated his nobody care and Jr Middleweight wasn't the only time Manny won a belt at a catchweight or defended a belt at a catchweight. Floyd the alpha belt orgs broke their own rules and said he didn't have to defend against the mandatory and was allowed to win the belt at a catchweight and then defend 154 lb belts at not even a catchweight but a entire different division for 2 years Floyd defended his 154 belt at 147. Fury just trashed his belt after he won it. None of this is knew in boxing. For young fighters it means something. But when you get to the PPV level and have won numerous belts it really doesn't. And GGG knows this which is why he keeps giving out step asides instead of going and getting that belt.

The difference between Floyd Pac and Canelo is that Floyd and Pac won their belts at LMW and then resumed their careers at 147. Canelo has won his belt at MW BUT HAS NOT AND PROBABLY CANNOT resume his career at LMW. If he could fight at 154 it would have made little difference to him to drop a lb and make a more even fight with Khan who is already coming up 7 lbs. The fact he didn't is telling.

[methodcal]

Ggg fans gotta be the dumbest fans of alltime. We wanna unify but we'll step aside. 154-168 (read the small print, only for beatable fights. Still at 160 doe smh). **** those belts better get you some good name, if you really bout that action boss call canelo bluff. Its clear they are in hard spot with the bs talk of unifying when they REALLY want the money hence all the step asides fees. Ggg fans should not defend this but will try to (shrug). Odl told floyd 154- Tmt said bet. Odl told bhop the weight- bhop said bet. Tmt told canelo 152, some say canelo offered, but either way, bet. Dawson told ward id fck u up, ward said **** lets do chad wanted it higher weight ward said i fight at 168, dawson knowing if he won against ward to fight at 168 cause a win would have been HUGE, dawson said bet. Point is get out your comfort zone, and go make a legacy instead of wanting it handed to you. He a small mw, height maybe. In that case tyson was small hw if we talking height. If he is that great he'd had no prob getting on the inside unless..................................