Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: No More Step-Aside Deals For Canelo!

[SteveM]

This reminds me of those old cartoons or t.v. comedy sitcoms where a guy draws a line in the sand and dares the other guy to go passed it, than than when he does the other guys steps back and makes a new line and says I dare you to cross this one. GGG's team straight posturing and fronting. New word for Urban dictionary, GGG'ing.

Used in a sentence: Man I walked by a bunch of ese's on da streets, dey mean mugging like hell, but when I called dem out they did nonthin, they were just ggg'ing...

Good luck with your urban dictionary shite - I got one for you and it trips of the tongue a bit better - just replace yellow-ass (coward) with canelo-ass

-- if and when Canelo dumps the belt of course - and he may not

[kafkod]

I keep telling y'all these people are hustlers. They're selling snake oil. There's an excuse/reason for every fight getting made or not getting made and they blame it on everybody else. I can't think of any other time in history where a fight not happening because the other guy isn't marketable has been an accepted excuse not to fight a guy. I'm not talking about a true no name who isn't a threat. I'm talking about good fighters who are known by boxing fans. I also find it strange that as the Canelo fight looks like it's not happening all of a sudden we don't hear them talking about Jacobs or DeGale anymore. Ramirez is the leading candidate. These people are hustling boxing fans and people are falling for it.

I'll tell you something that has never happened before in the whole of boxing history - a world champion refusing to defend his title against the No 1 contender without a catchweight.

Canelo, or rather Dela Hoya, must not be allowed to get away with this shameful trickery. If Canelo won't defend against Golovkin at the sanctioned MW limit, strip the fucker and let him come back and fight Golovkin as the challenger when he can't make 155 any more.

[bigdunny1]

I'll tell you something that has never happened before in the whole of boxing history - a world champion refusing to defend his title against the No 1 contender without a catchweight.

Canelo, or rather Dela Hoya, must not be allowed to get away with this shameful trickery. If Canelo won't defend against Golovkin at the sanctioned MW limit, strip the fucker and let him come back and fight Golovkin as the challenger when he can't make 155 any more.

Listen carefully. You can't strip Canelo when it's GGG and his team who keep giving out voluntary title defenses. LOL You upset tell GGG if he wants the belt stop giving step asides. If it were just about the belt he could of had it last year. Canelo has NEVER said if you want a shot at the title you need to come down in weight. Neither has the WBC matter of fact. If he wants the title he can say no deal and Canelo and Cotto before him will deliver the belt in the trash and he go dig it out. But if he wants to fight Canelo it will only be on his terms just like if Ward wanted a fight with GGG he said it would be at his catchweight and his terms.

[kafkod]

I don't even think he cares about the belts that much? I mean he supposedly offered Saunders $4 million + that we now KNOW was a BS LIE!!! If they would of offered him what they SAID they offered they would probably be fighting for another belt.

Instead the CHEAP BASTARDS decided to pay tomato can Wade $100,000K.

You do know that the only person who said that Saunders had been offered $4million+ to fight GGG was Saunders himself, at his twitter account?

But that's a silly question, I guess. Of course you neither know nor care about trifles like FACTS.

[SteveM]

Chavez BARELY could make 160 at that time and today can't even make 170. He couldn't fight Sergio below 160 even if he wanted to. Canelo makes 155 EASY! And Canelo is not the idiot who spent all year calling out Manny and Floyd saying he can fight both at 154 and that he can make 154 easily because he is not a big middleweight. But now all a sudden he can't make 155 for Canelo? Canelo has never said he is fighting at 160 or called out any other fighters saying I'll fight Joe at 160 but you GGG it has to be 155. He's fought everyone the last few years at either 154 or 155 this isn't a new requirement just for GGG. So if you want to fight the bigger star you have to go to his weight to do so. If all you care about is the belt then stop stepping aside and you can have that belt. Nobody is forcing him to drop weight for the title. He could of had the title last year if that was the case. What Canelo is saying is you need to drop weight if you want to fight me I'm the bigger star and we fight on my terms. Kind of like GGG said to Ward just last year.

Amazing! First of all it sounds like you are fully condoning 155 as a fighting weight for opponents and secondly you don't think K2 decides when Canelo gets stripped and that the WBC doesn't take that decision?

I bet you the WBC is the one flip flopping here - see their President coming out telling "everyone should be patient and respectful" - with all WBCs hstory you don't even think to mention or consider that just maybe they are the ones stringing K2 along telling K2 that Canelo will get stripped and then coming out with some bs excuse. Basically string K2 and Golovkin along while all the time milking the Cotto and Canelo titles for all they are worth.

[kafkod]

Listen carefully. You can't strip Canelo when it's GGG and his team who keep giving out voluntary title defenses. LOL You upset tell GGG if he wants the belt stop giving step asides. If it were just about the belt he could of had it last year. Canelo has NEVER said if you want a shot at the title you need to come down in weight. Neither has the WBC matter of fact. If he wants the title he can say no deal and Canelo and Cotto before him will deliver the belt in the trash and he go dig it out. But if he wants to fight Canelo it will only be on his terms just like if Ward wanted a fight with GGG he said it would be at his catchweight and his terms.

Huh? Canelo, or Canelo's team, have said many times that he will only fight Golovkin at 155. If they hadn't said that then why has it become an issue?

The WBC have said that the sanctioned weight for the fight will be 160.

The sanctioned weight for a MW title fight is ALWAYS 160, even if the 2 fighters make a catchweight deal between themselves.

[Beercules]

War Golovkin

[kafkod]

Canelo has to either give up his belt or be stripped if he has no intention of facing his mandatory.....being middleweight champion means you defend your belt against other middleweights who can weigh up to 160lbs ...it's called defending your middleweight belt....now Canelo's fun ride at 155lbs is about to finish and he can no longer claim to be a champion of that division if he is not willing face his challengers period....I really don't care if golovkin faces canelo or not....I would much rather see the middleweight title being held by a middleweight and then he defends against other middleweights
If canelo can make 154 then that's what he should do...but personally him trying to make that weight could have serious problems for him if he is weight drained and 154lbs has killed him trying to make it.....that's when fighters lose so canelo better be careful or he could end up getting Donald curried

The last time Canelo tried to make 154 he failed, came in a pound over and has been fighting at 155 ever since.

[bigdunny1]

Amazing! First of all it sounds like you are fully condoning 155 as a fighting weight for opponents and secondly you don't think K2 decides when Canelo gets stripped and that the WBC doesn't take that decision?

I bet you the WBC is the one flip flopping here - see their President coming out telling "everyone should be patient and respectful" - with all WBCs hstory you don't even think to mention or consider that just maybe they are the ones stringing K2 along telling K2 that Canelo will get stripped and then coming out with some bs excuse. Basically string K2 and Golovkin along while all the time milking the Cotto and Canelo titles for all they are worth.

The WBC has nothing to do with this they can't strip him when GGG keeps agreeing to voluntary fights to push their fights back. Now if GGG's team grows some balls and says no then the WBC will have a decision of whether to strip Canelo or create some phony way around it. We can sit here and theorize what they will do but the fact is we don't know because GGG never lets it get to that point because here's a secret...you ready? They DON'T WANT HIM TO BE STRIPPED BECAUSE THEN THEY GET A PAPER BELT AND NO FIGHT. They want the fight not the belt and if agreeing to step asides leaves the door open for a potential fight they will keep taking that rather then shutting the door completely and getting another vacant belt that NOBODY cares about except maybe 2 GGG fans.

[bigdunny1]

Huh? Canelo, or Canelo's team, have said many times that he will only fight Golovkin at 155. If they hadn't said that then why has it become an issue?

The WBC have said that the sanctioned weight for the fight will be 160.

The sanctioned weight for a MW title fight is ALWAYS 160, even if the 2 fighters make a catchweight deal between themselves.

No they have said if you want to fight Canelo it will be at our weight. They have NEVER said if you want the belt you have to agree to a catchweight. Nobody including the WBC is forcing a catchweight if GGG wants the title. He can clearly get the title without agreeing to any catchweight. But he refuses to do that because the title means NOTHING to him. So it's about making a super fight with a bigger named fighter and when you do that you need to conceede to the bigger star. Canelo had to do it and agreed to a catchweight to get Floyd to fight him. This is Canelo's weight which is 1 pound heavier then the 154 that you told the world you could make easily to fight Floyd and Manny. Either take the fight or move on and stop taking step asides and get your paper vacant belt. You will find it in the trash.