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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostGreat, find videos for everyone else too who moved up.
Idiots on here still think moving up at 33 to a class where everyone is rangier than you and simultaneously bigger is the same as some young cats moving up while still keeping their length and having the frame for the weight.Last edited by SplitSecond; 10-13-2015, 12:37 PM.
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Originally posted by Dip_Slide View PostYou have a video of him complaining about the weight at 135 or 140 or 147?
The definition of the word natural weight is different now, now a natural weight is the weight that u can weigh in at without killing urself and then u can rehydrate 7-10 lbs, nowadays this is just the norm, some people are heavy for their weight some are light some are perfect, like GGG, GGG is perfect at 160, will be a small 168 pounder, Floyd would be perfect at 140, is a light 147 pounder, Pacquiao is a perfect 135 pounder. Just look at their opponents and see to which weight they rehydrate, and then you'll know what I'm talking about, if you are outweighed by 10-15 pounds on fight night in 90% of ur fights then u r not fighting at ur natural weight.
Plus when all fighters move up to a new weight class they are smaller than their opponents, but with time they can grow a bit into the new weight, they just have to be willing, Hopkins moved up at to 175 from 160 at almost 40 years old, and don't tell me he's naturally a big 160 pounder cuz it's not only about him, it's about the opponents too, when u move up ur opponents are also much bigger, hit much harder, stronger and with a better chin that the ones u r accustomed to, so u need to make adjustments. GGG unfortunatley is just not willing to do that at the moment, hope he does in the future after he makes a couple of good easy paydays at 160.
Here's one video I remembered to reference to you, Mayweather talking about how he's alot faster at 140 since he's not dehydrating and killing himself to make weight like he did at 135.
Last edited by SplitSecond; 10-13-2015, 12:40 PM.
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Originally posted by Deevel916 View PostThere is no "hate" for any non-white (black) fighters. The criticism comes from their defensive/slick/non-aggressive boxing style. Its almost like anti-fighting.
Maybe there was an exception for Floyd but Floyd brought the hate upon himself. You cant market yourself as the villian then complain when people dont like you. Beating on women and having the personality of a spoiled 12yr old didnt help either.
On the other hand you have a guy like GGG who the majority of hate is coming from either pro black posters here or the leftover Floyd fans and current Ward fans. Instead of stating that he's a great entertaining fighter, you guys harp on the fact that he wont move up RIGHT AWAY to face a former 168lb fighter who is now fighting in the LHW division.
Difference between me and you is, had GGG been ANY nationality I would have been a supporter because I appreciate and enjoy watching his style. He's a seek and destroy type of fighter.
People like you on the other hand are critical of him solely because he's of a different skin color.
Just admit it. Many of the GGG critics hate it when the attention/praise/accolades arent being paid to a black fighter. Those guys constantly play the race card yet are the most racist bunch there is!
"Harp on the fact"-that's what you and others did from 2007-2015. If you feel this is such a negative practice, why didn't you let go of it?
To say you would like GGG if he were any nationality after generalizing all non white (black) fighters have a "slick" style makes me doubt the sincerity of your post.
Again, the race card again which you so often complain about now you are playing. Find any of my criticisms of GGG and show how they are racially motivated.
My problem with any accolades GGG gets is relative to his resume, nt his skin color. Since you and those that like him have no answer for his weak resume, you deflect to race. Shameful.
Compare what you see on GGG's social media accounts with that of any prominent black boxer. Now tell me which suggest the hate is racial.
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Originally posted by rajaomair View PostExactly, here are the 11 boxers that ducked/ducking GGG
1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.
2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol
3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"
4---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.
5---Miguel cotto - didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.
6---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR
7---Saul alvarez - Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.
8---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, GGG was calling him for more than a year so no excuses for "retiring".
9---Andrea Ward. The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked.+ he was fine when Dawson came down a whole division for him but wont move half a division for GGG, smh
10---Sebastian Sylvester - When Sylvester was IBF champ, he ducked GGG blatantly
11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG
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Originally posted by SplitSecond View PostNo you dumb bastard, because It's irrelevant. I did want to throw that Mayweather one in your face since you're such a ball licker though.
Idiots on here still think moving up at 33 to a class where everyone is rangier than you and simultaneously bigger is the same as some young cats moving up while still keeping their length and having the frame for the weight.
LOL @ you posting a video for that reason though. You think I care about you that much? I don't even know or care who you are
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostIf it's irrelevant than don't bring it up, which is what you did.
Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostThere's nothing to suggest Mayweather couldn't make 130, he simply had no takers. And nothing to suggest Pacquiao coild no longer make 122 either. Excuses.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostIf it's irrelevant than don't bring it up, which is what you did.
LOL @ you posting a video for that reason though. You think I care about you that much? I don't even know or care who you are
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