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    #51
    Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
    You have a video of him complaining about the weight at 135 or 140 or 147?

    The definition of the word natural weight is different now, now a natural weight is the weight that u can weigh in at without killing urself and then u can rehydrate 7-10 lbs, nowadays this is just the norm, some people are heavy for their weight some are light some are perfect, like GGG, GGG is perfect at 160, will be a small 168 pounder, Floyd would be perfect at 140, is a light 147 pounder, Pacquiao is a perfect 135 pounder. Just look at their opponents and see to which weight they rehydrate, and then you'll know what I'm talking about, if you are outweighed by 10-15 pounds on fight night in 90% of ur fights then u r not fighting at ur natural weight.

    Plus when all fighters move up to a new weight class they are smaller than their opponents, but with time they can grow a bit into the new weight, they just have to be willing, Hopkins moved up at to 175 from 160 at almost 40 years old, and don't tell me he's naturally a big 160 pounder cuz it's not only about him, it's about the opponents too, when u move up ur opponents are also much bigger, hit much harder, stronger and with a better chin that the ones u r accustomed to, so u need to make adjustments. GGG unfortunatley is just not willing to do that at the moment, hope he does in the future after he makes a couple of good easy paydays at 160.

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      #52
      Yall herd uh dat jerman fighter name glove king?

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        #53
        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
        Why aren't people as critical of Kovalev then? Nobody hates Golovkin, it's all down to people feeling like the hype isn't warranted.
        golovkin is more popular than kovalev, therefore a more attractive target for pseudo-intellectual contrarians. and some people just have no eye for talent until it's put on a plate and served to them, e.g. those who claimed that kovalev was a "stiff eastern european brawler" who would be schooled by hopkins

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          #54
          Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
          GGG is for real. Not his fault that Sturm, Martinez, Cotto, and other good MW champions avoided him. It's the business that didn't give him yet the opportunities.

          But he destroyed every MW he faced. Look for example, Murray. Murray arguable beat Sturm and Martinez, and was KOed by GGG. He also has a very deep amateur experience.
          Exactly, here are the 11 boxers that ducked/ducking GGG

          1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

          2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol

          3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"

          4---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

          5---Miguel cotto - didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.

          6---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

          7---Saul alvarez - Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.

          8---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, GGG was calling him for more than a year so no excuses for "retiring".

          9---Andrea Ward. The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked.+ he was fine when Dawson came down a whole division for him but wont move half a division for GGG, smh

          10---Sebastian Sylvester - When Sylvester was IBF champ, he ducked GGG blatantly

          11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG

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            #55
            Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
            Great, find videos for everyone else too who moved up.

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              #56
              Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
              but but but but Abel said 154-168 doe, so dat means he gotta fight Ward tomorrow at 168 in oakland with Pat Russell as ref, or its a duck!!

              Yet all the Ward statements about going to 175 or even heavyweight are merely "aspirational statements" according to Scipio and the rest of the trolls lol
              It's interesting that in 2015 posters thumb their noses at the same ******ed logic they supported and promoted from 2007-2015.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                The truth is, the majority of the hate directed at GGG stems from the following:

                1. He's white

                2. He's exciting and is receiving tons of attention.

                3. Many fans are supporting his style while thumbing their noses at the slick defensive style.
                Funny but you and other posters claim hate toward GGG is racial yet whenever fans of non white fighters suggests racism is a possible reason for hate directed at non white fighters you and they say its "boxing only" and accuse posters of "playing the race card".

                Why the difference?

                The posters that do not fancy GGG are not going on NSB or his facebook page, twitter or instrgram and calling him all kinds of racially motivated names as wee saw with non white fighters.

                Most of NSB is white, so I doubt the anger directed toward him is racial. More likely, that's the primary reason why you and some others like him.

                Whenever his words or actions are scrutinized, you no longer say the same things you did with non white popular fighters.

                Why Deveel916?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  Funny but you and other posters claim hate toward GGG is racial yet whenever fans of non white fighters suggests racism is a possible reason for hate directed at non white fighters you and they say its "boxing only" and accuse posters of "playing the race card".

                  Why the difference?

                  The posters that do not fancy GGG are not going on NSB or his facebook page, twitter or instrgram and calling him all kinds of racially motivated names as wee saw with non white fighters.

                  Most of NSB is white, so I doubt the anger directed toward him is racial. More likely, that's the primary reason why you and some others like him.

                  Whenever his words or actions are scrutinized, you no longer say the same things you did with non white popular fighters.

                  Why Deveel916?
                  You know why

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BS BadBoy View Post

                    Anyone who dislikes this man has got to be a idiot, he doesnt do anything unlikeable in or out of the ring.
                    He ain't the issue, it's this new fan base that has attached themselves to him, mainly the anti Mayweather crusaders, Pac fans whatever they call themselves, I don't know man. Real cringey bunch, take Golovkin and Barcham for example.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      Funny but you and other posters claim hate toward GGG is racial yet whenever fans of non white fighters suggests racism is a possible reason for hate directed at non white fighters you and they say its "boxing only" and accuse posters of "playing the race card".

                      Why the difference?

                      The posters that do not fancy GGG are not going on NSB or his facebook page, twitter or instrgram and calling him all kinds of racially motivated names as wee saw with non white fighters.

                      Most of NSB is white, so I doubt the anger directed toward him is racial. More likely, that's the primary reason why you and some others like him.

                      Whenever his words or actions are scrutinized, you no longer say the same things you did with non white popular fighters.

                      Why Deveel916?
                      There is no "hate" for any non-white (black) fighters. The criticism comes from their defensive/slick/non-aggressive boxing style. Its almost like anti-fighting.

                      Maybe there was an exception for Floyd but Floyd brought the hate upon himself. You cant market yourself as the villian then complain when people dont like you. Beating on women and having the personality of a spoiled 12yr old didnt help either.


                      On the other hand you have a guy like GGG who the majority of hate is coming from either pro black posters here or the leftover Floyd fans and current Ward fans. Instead of stating that he's a great entertaining fighter, you guys harp on the fact that he wont move up RIGHT AWAY to face a former 168lb fighter who is now fighting in the LHW division.

                      Difference between me and you is, had GGG been ANY nationality I would have been a supporter because I appreciate and enjoy watching his style. He's a seek and destroy type of fighter.

                      People like you on the other hand are critical of him solely because he's of a different skin color.

                      Just admit it. Many of the GGG critics hate it when the attention/praise/accolades arent being paid to a black fighter. Those guys constantly play the race card yet are the most racist bunch there is!
                      Last edited by Deevel916; 10-13-2015, 12:06 PM.

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