Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[billeau2]

LMAO what a ******!

Why is he "******ed"? hes posting information.

[Ruthless One]

Watch this:

Good stuff. Was watching this and it was very informative.

[The Big Dunn]

I find that if the facts aren't posted here every so often, people start making up crazy conspiracy theories. Mayweather probably shot Kennedy and definitely was involved in 9/11.

So here's the actual facts of the case.:

"The report suggested the solution had to be administered in a hospital setting because the amount used; 750 milliliters, or about three-fourths of a typical IV bag ; theoretically could serve as a masking agent. But WADA guidelines specify that the hospital requirement applies only the case if a temporary use exemption (TUE) isn't granted.

Mayweather had a United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) collection official summoned to his home to verify compliance before accepting the infusion, sources told MLive. He was drug tested before and after the IV was administered, with the USADA collector present. The TUE was granted retroactively, as allowed under WADA rules, on May 20, 18 days after the fight.

"Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong," Nevada State Athletic Commission chairman Bob Bennett told Showtime before the fight. "The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA rules for any type of drugs and we have no issue."

The WADA and NSAC are the governing bodies on this issue, thier opinions are the only ones that matter. It's basically like arguing with the judge at a court, the juge's opinion is the reason you are at the court in the 1st place, their opinion rules.

So to recap: Floyd didn't do anything illegal, there will be no investigation, and the UD WIN for Floyd will not be changed to "no contest" as the really scummy Floyd haters, Manny fans and NSB bigots are begging for.

It was all good just a week ago. LMFAO!!!!!!

[ganthet]

Why is he "******ed"? hes posting information.

LOL information? Sorry but I don't give a crap about fishy information and I don't gobble anything that was told to me just like that without question, especially if something reeks of cheating and corruption.

If you want informative, unbiased and eye-opening information, THIS IS INFORMATION:



Props to the guy who originally shared the video.

Additionally, here's another information, article date September 13, 2015:

Mir's TUE request highlight conflict between USADA and state commissions
Frank Mir's request for a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) for Adderall at UFC 191 brings up the inherent problem with the UFC-USADA anti-doping program and the potential conflicts with athletic commissions.
MMA Fighting reports that Frank Mir had requested a the****utic use exemption in Nevada for his fight against Andre Arlovski. According to the UFC's vice president of athlete health and performance, Jeff Novitzky, Mir was granted a TUE for Adderall by USADA. However, according to the LA Times' Lance Pugmire, the Nevada State Athletic Commission ruled Mir's TUE was inadmissible.
The story gets muddled as Novitzky indicates misreporting in Mir's request for a TUE for Adderall. Novitzky claims that Mir never submitted a TUE through Nevada as at the time Mir was informed he needed to obtain a TUE with the NSAC, it was too late to obtain such an exemption before his fight. Instead, Novitzky stated that he told Mir to stop using Adderall. So, the question is whether or not, Mir's drug test from UFC 191 will come up positive for Adderall. As of this writing, those drug test results have yet to come back.
Pugmire was told by NSAC executive director Bob Bennett that USADA is "confusing the fighters." In addition, Bennett told MMA Fighting, "The Nevada State Athletic Commission is the only body that can authorize a the****utic use exemption in the state of Nevada." So, what about obtaining one from USADA?
Under the new UFC-USADA anti-doping program fighters can apply for TUEs although that information will remain confidential. Under the USADA policy for TUE application a fighter may apply for a TUE 21 days in advance of use of the prohibited drug if not scheduled to fight, 90 days in advance of use if scheduled to fight more than 90 days in the future or: "[a]s soon as practicable when the Athlete is scheduled to participate in a Bout with less than ninety (90) days advance notice."
Notably, the first two application scenarios note that the athlete should notify USADA prior to the use of the prohibited medication. The last scenario provides a case where the fighter is likely already using the prohibited medication and the fight is in less than 90 days. One might assume the last scenario are for fighters that may be last minute replacements. The question is what if in the last scenario, USADA denies the TUE. If you believe that USADA is out-of-competition testing prior to fights, isn't possible that Mir could be found for use of a prohibited drug.
In the Mir case, the UFC officially announced the fight on August 1st. Therefore, if you are in the Mir camp knowing he was using (or wanted to use) Adderall, you had the opportunity to apply with the NSAC at that point and with USADA under it's "as soon as practicable" standard.
According to this document from the NSAC, the TUE request must be done within twenty days "before he or she needs the approval (i.e., a bout)." Thus, the timeline for Mir's exemption would mean that he did not think of applying for a TUE with the NSAC inside of 20 days prior to UFC 191.
One might assume Mir made the TUE application with USADA within 20 days of UFC 191. Novitsky confirms that he was granted an exemption by USADA in the MMA Fighting article. But, he advised Mir to stop using the prohibited substance once it was discovered he could not obtain a TUE exemption from Nevada.
Payout Perspective:
We have our first controversy with the UFC-USADA anti-doping program and it underscores the tension between athletic commissions and a third party organization like USADA. Should Mir be culpable for not ensuring he was cleared of an exemption since he did not know the protocol for allowing such an exemption? The protocol can be confusing considering that if you are in need of a TUE, you must notify USADA and the commission where you are fighting. But, what happens if you are denied by the commission but allowed by USADA? Or, the commission grants the TUE but USADA does not? Both work independent of one another so this is a definite possibility. In this instance, Novitsky advised Mir to stop taking Adderall immediately. But, what happens if the fighter does not apply with USADA but with the NSAC?
It's the commission that will administer any penalty for a drug violation. But, could a showing that USADA granted a TUE be seen as circumstantial evidence or information which may be considered in determining a penalty, if any. Based on the TUE protocol for USADA and NSAC, there are conflicting requirements which we see could confuse fighters. Realistically, just lobbying commissions to follow USADA protocol is not sufficient. Time will tell if this gets clarified.
UPDATED: We should add that while USADA has its own penalties for violation of the UFC's anti-doping policies, the state regulatory body (i.e., commission) would hold a hearing if a fighter were to violate the state drug policy.

In case you didn't notice, NSACs Bennett here is stating the same thing he originally said regarding the IV scandal with Froid. Then for some reason he completely brushes it off after a few days without any detailed explanation. It really doesn't need to take a genius to see what's really going on here. And yet the Froid **** riders keep on quoting Bennett's sudden change of tune. Hell, it wasn't even just a simple change in tune, his attitude has taken a complete 180 degree turn. It's like night and day LOL! Again, any person with any semblance of intelligence can see what's going on here.

[cortdawg25]

Thomas Hauser

So Bob Bennett said nothing was wrong with what Floyd did nor was any NSAC or WADA rules violated. USADA said no rules were in violation with regards to Floyd and his IV usage or his request for TUE.

Will Thomas Hauser write a retraction of said accusations or apologize for the slander that he bestowed upon the USADA and Floyd Mayweather? Can he give an explanation as to why he left out that USADA rep was present for the IV application by request from Floyd? and that Floyd was tested before and after the IV was administered?

Or is he going to say nothing like before and come up with something else?

[Rath]

Why is he "******ed"? hes posting information.

this why. "Mayweather had a United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) collection official summoned to his home to verify compliance before accepting the infusion, sources told MLive."

[Rath]

So Bob Bennett said nothing was wrong with what Floyd did nor was any NSAC or WADA rules violated. USADA said no rules were in violation with regards to Floyd and his IV usage or his request for TUE.

Will Thomas Hauser write a retraction of said accusations or apologize for the slander that he bestowed upon the USADA and Floyd Mayweather? Can he give an explanation as to why he left out that USADA rep was present for the IV application by request from Floyd? and that Floyd was tested before and after the IV was administered?

Or is he going to say nothing like before and come up with something else?

Floyd fans are amazingly geniuses

[Ruthless One]

In case you didn't notice, NSACs Bennett here is stating the same thing he originally said regarding the IV scandal with Froid. Then for some reason he completely brushes it off after a few days without any detailed explanation.

That's what some people seem to be missing. At first, Bennett was like "Only NSAC can give TUEs in Nevada, USADA is not allowed." Then later on he backtracks and says nothing was done wrong. Who truly holds the authority in the state of Nevada to give TUEs? Plus, USADA should have informed NSAC about the IV and the retroactive TUE they gave him but did not do so until 3 weeks after the fight. NSAC has said the same thing when it comes to TUEs on other occassions but we have Bennett here suddenly eating his own words and contradicting NSAC's policies.

Anyone else hear about how Nick Diaz just recently got suspended for 5 years by NSAC for using weed? 5 years just for using weed yet in this situation, they don't even abide by their own policies. They are very inconsistent is all I have to say.

[The Big Dunn]

That's what some people seem to be missing. At first, Bennett was like "Only NSAC can give TUEs in Nevada, USADA is not allowed." Then later on he backtracks and says nothing was done wrong. Who truly holds the authority in the state of Nevada to give TUEs? Plus, USADA should have informed NSAC about the IV and the retroactive TUE they gave him but did not do so until 3 weeks after the fight. NSAC has said the same thing when it comes to TUEs on other occassions but we have Bennett here suddenly eating his own words and contradicting NSAC's policies.

Anyone else hear about how Nick Diaz just recently got suspended for 5 years by NSAC for using weed? 5 years just for using weed yet in this situation, they don't even abide by their own policies. They are very inconsistent is all I have to say.

They are mutually exclusive of one another. The TUE is not allowed but that doesn't make Floyd taking an IV illegal.

Floyd-did nothing wrong (regarding using the IV and testing negative)
USADA-gave him a TUE when they shouldn't have and were not allowed to

[DoktorSleepless]

Can you point out this rule? I haven't seen it yet. It's possible I've missed it.

huh? I already showed it to you. You quoted it.