Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Rath]

Already answered above. If you were just looking at the story rather than desperately trying to pin something on Floyd, you'd consider the Iole story on Hauser's article or others that offer contradicting points.

You don't want to do that, though. IYM, Floyd is guilty and nothing will make you change it.

No different than your repeatedly asking how many times both were tested-whenever anyone gave you info or an answer you just ignored it and went on and on.

Dunn we have been thru some arguments before, i already know your style and i am not going to go there again.

was there any videos of Floyd being drug tested randomly by USADA after that boo boo he made on that 24/7 episode where he made USADA wait 5 plus hours just to take a urine sample?

yeah right.

[The Big Dunn]

boogie you are still ignoring this

Memo and ariza didn't administer the IV, a nurse did.

Why did he move forward with the IV whebefore approval-he's Floyd and does what he wants. He shouldn't have done this and should be held accountable for getting an IV before it was approved.

what is the punishment for that?

[GTTofAK]

So Floyd settling the case is proof that Hauser's rumors are true? That is absolutely crazy IMO but if you are consistent and find fault using this criteria in every situation, so be it.

Legally the term is evidence not proof. Suddenly settling rather than releasing documents to subpena is evidence of guilt.

Proof would be the sum of all the evidence.

[The Big Dunn]

Dunn we have been thru some arguments before, i already know your style and i am not going to go there again.

was there any videos of Floyd being drug tested randomly by USADA after that boo boo he made on that 24/7 episode where he made USADA wait 5 plus hours just to take a urine sample?

yeah right.

Rath, anyone reading this can see that your problem is you want Floyd to be guilty too badly and its causing you to make yourself look foolish.

If you take all the facts and weighed them and still thought Floyd was guilty, cool. But you are picking through facts like fruit in a market and taking only those that look good to you.

[New England]

they're all on the gear, but this was still incredibly disappointing.

[The Big Dunn]

Legally the term is evidence not proof. Suddenly settling rather than releasing documents to subpena is evidence of guilt.

Proof would be the sum of all the evidence.

You sure about that? In a civil case, there is not guilt or innocence. Settling in a civil case is most often done to lower the financial impact.

If I'm Floyd, I give them what they want and try and win. That said, settling the Manny civil suit does not mean Hauser's rumors are fact nor proof of Floyd being guilty.

I'm pretty sure you know this.

[GTTofAK]

Memo and ariza didn't administer the IV, a nurse did.

Actually we dont now who did. I know the the "online news" source Mlive that keeps referencing anonymous sources said a RN did but I have never once seen this RN in any 24/7. The story that a nurse gave him an IV is the first time there has ever been any claim of an RN being part of Floyd's team.

[GTTofAK]

You sure about that? In a civil case, there is not guilt or innocence. Settling in a civil case is most often done to lower the financial impact.

Guilt is actually having done what one is accused of. I didn't say he was guilty I said that his actions in the civil case are evidence of guilt.

[GTTofAK]

If you take all the facts and weighed them and still thought Floyd was guilty, cool. But you are picking through facts like fruit in a market and taking only those that look good to you.

And the facts that look good for Froid are what. What is the exonerating evidence? The only evidence Froid can point to is a TUE that was granted by a questionable agency in USADA that was granted in violation of their own rules. WADA explicitly forbids TUEs to be granted for IVs used to treat moderate dehydration.

Your only exonerating evidence is easily refuted with even further evidence of guilt.

[cortdawg25]

LOL what an idiot! The question you should be asking is, why isn't NSAC, USADA and Froid going all out on suing Hauser's ass for defamation and libel charges if Hauser's article is false? Think about that for a second

And since you asked for explanation, I guess it's my turn to ask some explanations as well:

1) Why the need for 750ml?
2) Why did NSACs Bennett originally said that they are the only body in Nevada that can issue a TUE and that USADA did something wrong and broke the rules?
3) Why did Bennett suddenly did a complete 180 and brushed it off by simply saying Mayweather didn't do anything wrong because there was no prohibited drugs when in fact, the IV infusion was the subject in question, which was a PROHIBITED METHOD.
4) Why would Bennett say that there was no prohibited drugs when anyone with half-a-brain would realize that of course there woulnd't be drugs, because the IV was used to MASK and FLUSH OUT the drugs. Hence why IV infusion is a prohibited method.
5) Why is Bennett now denying Frank Mir the TUE and saying the same thing he originally said about the IV scandal? "The Nevada State Athletic Commission is the only body that can authorize a the****utic use exemption in the state of Nevada."
6) Why does Froid insist on USADA as the drug testing agency?
7) Why does USADA charge so much for their service when their tests and methods are simplistic and inaaccurate compared to WADA?
8) Why does Froid pay USADA that much?
9) Why would Froid call it a deal-breaker on their supposed contract with Pac if Team Pac didn't agree with USADA?
10) Why did USADA took that long to inform both Team Pac and NSAC that there was a TUE request? Even when their fight contract states that both parties and NSAC should be informed within 24 hours?
11) Why is Froid the one to announce his fights? Take note that since no official fight was announced yet, he isn't being tested during this window of time.
12) There are more, but I guess I'll just cut it short and end it with this one last question: Why are Froid **** riders ******ed? LMAO!

1. I guess you would have to ask the doctor or nurse that administered the IV unless you think Floyd prescribes his own medicines as well.

2. Because according to NSAC that is true. however and IV is not against NSAC rules and therefore a TUE would not be required for NSAC.

3. Again, an 750ml IV for rehydration is NOT against NSAC rules. It' is against WADA rules which is why a TUE was requested and granted.

4. Again you leave out that he was tested before the IV was administered and after and all test where passed. So this alleged flush is mute because he was tested before the IV. If you say he was flushing all along, then why request for USADA to witness the injection of the IV in the 1st place.

5. Isn't Adderall against NSAC rules? I believe the answer is yes and the reason why the TUE was denied. however an IV injection is not against NSAC rules.

6. Because he believes it to be the best and it used in The Olympics with which he participated in previously.

7. Not true. USADA is WADA and they all use the same test.

8. Because that is what they charge.

9. Because he thinks USADA is the best - gold standard

10. I believe the contract stated that they would report TUE granted in 24 hours not requested in 24 hours.

11. Because he is the man and in full control. A general in and out of the ring.

12. Get the hate out of your eyes! You can't see!