Comments Thread For: The Big Lie

[BoxingTrav]

To begin with it's not an illegal substance. It's like water you can drink water without asking permission from nsac.

It's not in there list of band substance, but all of a sudden it's like Pac wasn't allowed to drink water (taradol) coz they just wanted him not to.

As the writer said, it is not an illegal substance, there is no performance benefit with that drug. You don't even need to ask permission. You can take it as you wish, but on this night. It wasn't allowed.

Operation demolition job in full effect I guess.

With all due to respect, you did not respond to anything I asked.

[wlliam]

If weregoing by what Roach said at the time, they halted training bcuz Pac was starting to peak in training and they didnt want to over train. Either way you look at it, TeamPac has lost alotta credibility..how much ish have they lied about? Eithrr way this freakn bullshhh!! Floyd WON! The Pactrrds dont want a rematch either bcyz they know the outcome will be the same and they couldnt live with it..2 losses against Floyd? They never wanted the fight in the 1st place. Floyd was NO GOOD for anybody on TeamPac, look at the situation..LIES after LIES, Pac exposed as a lying fraud, excuses, his image as a "humble christian" shattered, the truth will always come to light. Its just ironic that Floyd brought all of that out of them. And on top of that, Bob managed to pay Pac only $25mill

[St. Johns Gent]

these *******s, their excuses and their faith that the excuses, are not only true but, influenced in the outcome of the fight is de****able, the whole motto before the fight was #noexcuses, we knew Mayweather was gonna handle #48 easily and now they're so salty that these excuses are the only thing they're holding on to, Pacquiao needs to take the loss like a man, he's a typical slimy politician with an excuse for everything that puts up the front that he's religious, happily married, and lies to his followers, he's a piece of Sh#t in my book, never even thanked God after the fight and lied in the press conference and after the fight, what kind of religious man is that? well a lot of religious people are hypocrites anyways, not all but there are a lot of them.........it's funny Pacquiao never put that religious persona up until he became a serious politician :*******:

[BoxingTrav]

To those who say, wtf he still uses his right hand during the fight. Yeah he did, doesn't mean it has the right pop or sting it used to deliver. And the fact Pac was hurting even affects his ring focus coz he have to block out the pain while he is fighting.

The fact his normal punch stats was way below his normal, tells us he really was nursing a shoulder pain throughout the fight, and his right punches didn't have the zing or pop it normally should have had.

He did punch with his right hand doesn't mean it was frequent and with the right pop it used to have. The snap was not there and that definitely affected his ring performance.

At what point did you see Pac hurting. We're talkign about a bad shoulder, he did nothing to indicate this pain. Arum has said he's had this same injury for his best performances.

Those who predicted Floyd to win knew that he would neutralize Pac's attack and his punch output would be much lower. They did think that Pac would sell out for the Knock out but he clearly was concerned about the counters

[HanzGruber]

Someone check spoon into a rehab facility asap

[Spoon23]

With all due to respect, you did not respond to anything I asked.

Yes it's a recurring injury since way back. But has now aggravated through wear and tear from all the ring wars. Through the years it gotten worse. Yes he fought with it before. But this time it reached the breaking point.

It's no surprise it severely tore even more in the 4th round of the fight.

Pac had a lot of ring wars. It's bound to pop sooner than later and it did on may 2. He's no spring chicken anymore. That is why fans want to see 2 great boxers fight at their prime not in their twilight years.

It just shows Pac is old and shop worn.

Truth hurts, We wanted to see them at there best, but ring wars and old age has finally caught up to pac in the most unforeseen time.

[The Big Dunn]

Lol, keep that game dunn.

No video evidence dunn believed

well documented surgery - it's fake

Floyd fan logic

where did I say the surgery was fake? I said it was unnecessary because I think the "injury" is a lie.

As for video evidence, I didn't see video of either Manny (rios, Bradley w/VADA) or Floyd (many w/USADA) taking tests yet I believe both did. You didn't see any video of Manny testing for those fights either, yet you believe he did.

If you are still upset Manny lost, you should get over it already.

[BoxingTrav]

it is well known that Floyd hands are injured. so do you see him using his hands when fighting.

Did Floyd checked those yes box on the NSAC questionaire?

You realize that hands and a rotator cuff are not comparabvle injuries right? Bob Arum said Manny was 100% going in to the fight. They claim the injury happened in the fourth round. Also the injury happened seven years ago. Before the Hatton and Cotto fights. Did you see what Manny's right hand did to those fighters?

Did you see how Manny let off the right against Clottey and Margarito?

Floyd won, to the victor goes the spoils. When it's all said and done, and Bob Arum, Floyd, Manny, Freddy, Pac fans and Floyds fans are all dead and gone.

The record book will show that Floyd beat his number one rival in a lopsided fight.

[BoxingTrav]

Yes it's a recurring injury since way back. But has now aggravated through wear and tear from all the ring wars. Through the years it gotten worse. Yes he fought with it before. But this time it reached the breaking point.

It's no surprise it severely tore even more in the 4th round of the fight.

Pac had a lot of ring wars. It's bound to pop sooner than later and it did on may 2. He's no spring chicken anymore. That is why fans want to see 2 great boxers fight at their prime not in their twilight years.

It just shows Pac is old and shop worn.

Truth hurts, We wanted to see them at there best, but ring wars and old age has finally caught up to pac in the most unforeseen time.

Please point to the part of the round where Manny severely tore this rotator cuff. No reaction. Pac is human not a God, he would've winced or something.

[Spoon23]

At what point did you see Pac hurting. We're talkign about a bad shoulder, he did nothing to indicate this pain. Arum has said he's had this same injury for his best performances.

Those who predicted Floyd to win knew that he would neutralize Pac's attack and his punch output would be much lower. They did think that Pac would sell out for the Knock out but he clearly was concerned about the counters

every human being has a different threshold of pain, that said, knowing he was diagnosed 3 weeks before the fight with a severe tear, and knowing too that he didnt use his right hand much in sparring to prevent it from aggravating. It tells us that it was bad.

Pac flurried in the fourth, and if you noticed when he got Floyd pinned down at the ropes he flurried with so many nice combos and then he suddenly uncharacteristically stopped firing and drew floyd to go the center of the ring. Me and my friends were all dumbfounded. wtf!?? why stop when you got him wounded?

That sequence of flurries started and aggravated the tear, and as a fighter he shouldnt show to his opponent that he was hurt, coz if he did, like a wild animal in the jungle, a predator will know when he has a wounded prey in the midst. Pac, didnt show it, as boxers should not show pain in a dog fight.

Pac was nursing it through 12 rounds. With one effective hand he was amazing.