Comments Thread For: The Big Lie

[Sweet_Science2]

It's like Canelo said, there's a strong chance postponement by Pacquiao would have killed the bout outright.

It was tough enough to get Floyd in the ring after 6 years with a tenuous agreement in place, postponement would've provided the perfect out to say "see, I told you he didn't want it".

He lost he wasn't hurt he, if he was he lied! Deal with it he is now #48 taking selfies, Roach talking everyday how they will beat Floyd, and even 3 days before the fight saying he thinks Floyd might not come to the fight.


And Hatton got introduced to the turn-buckle did it for you! Do you still watch round 10 blaming Cortez for that beautiful check-hook? LMAO

[bluemax]

Manny is a liar

I don't believe the injury.

You can't have a torn rotator cuff and punch as hard as Manny did.

Simple and plain, end of.

His crotch was hurting and still is, that much we know.

But torn rotator cuff? With some of the big shots he threw and landed and missed.

And showed NO SIGNS of injury.

Didn't say NOTHING to Roach in the corner



Roach NEVER asked him about it?

Please.

The gig is up.

Take your millions and your embarrassing loss and chalk it up.

But the constant whining and story changing?

Yea...sure.

Fans have to just stop believing all the PR surrounding these sports figures! The real Manny is not who his PR team puts out there. This whole rotator cuff excuse is just a smokescreen to squeeze a well paid rematch out of the suckers, opps! I mean fans out there. Any one who has ever had a sprained shoulder never mind a rotator cuff injury will tell you that the pain is just plain excruciating! Look at the sparring leading up to the fight and the 1st 6 rounds and you should have no reason to even think Manny was crippled. Besides what does a rotator cuff have to do with following Floyd around like a zombie all night and doing a crappy job of even attempting to cut off the ring. Manny got schooled and wants a little more retirement money before he packs it in. Don't fall for it.

[umop-ap!sdn]

Blaming Pacquiao for not pulling out of the fight became moot once NSAC found out about the injury. That responsibility then fell on them. It didn't matter that it was fight night, it became NSAC's call to shut down the fight, they were the governing body. They're the ones who had to step up to the plate and do the right thing regardless.

Wouldn't be surprised if this was part of their plan. Team Pac was probably banking on that. Either get the shot or have NSAC realise he's injured and postpone the fight, that way team Pac is not the one taking the hit as the ones making the call to push the fight back on just 2 hours prior to the event.

[Humean]

I would give this more consideration if not for the fact Bob has used his personal connections with doctors to give Manny unnecessary medical attention before.

In 2012, Manny was ok to fight in May, when he and TR thought Floyd was going to jail in May. When the court extended that to June so he could fight in May, Bob took Manny to his daughter in laws boyfriend to get stitches for a cut from the JMM/Manny 3 fight-8 or 9 weeks before. Bob then said Manny was no longer able to fight in May 2012.

How did the ringside physician, the dr at the hospital doing the post fight analysis, and Manny's personal physician not give him stitches? Are they all that unprofessional?

Moving to the shoulder-Bob claims this happened in 2008, he said this yesterday. How did Manny's personal physician miss this injury for 7 years?

Manny is a pro athlete backed by TR. His doctor's are not of poor quality nor are the exams he gets like the rest of us. This "significant tear" went unaddressed and missed for years.

Do you really think that is possible?

I think you are accepting as factual claims that are made that are unlikely to be and using them to cast doubt on far more credible claims. You think Pacquiao's surgery was fake in some way? If you do then this is crazy, it really is. Pacquiao shouldn't have went through with the fight, he deserves a ****load of criticism for it but that is where the criticism should be made not these silly conspiracy theories.

[joesaiditstrue]

I know toradol is legal and all but reading about it i can only describe it as performance enhancing. .some NFL players sued the league for not telling them of the drugs side effects, these players claimed the drug numbs you to pain so hard they would be playing with concussions and not know it..another player said that while on toradol he felt he could literally run through a wall and not feel anything for two days.. this drug also has scandal in the MLB, curt Schilling admits the drug helped him pitch better..

so its making these athletes do things they normally couldn't, isn't this what a PED is by definition. ..

I was given toradol intravenously due to having an ulcer and I can tell you first hand it isnt that great

they had me on the IV for 20 min and then put me on Fentanyl because toradol wasnt doing ****

[Sweet_Science2]

So no one is gonna bring up how floyd's camp wanted a "retroactive the****utic use exemption" and Pac's team told them to **** off

This is all a moot point cuz even with one arm, Pacquiao did enough to win

Did Floyd use an excuse? #48 is another casualty pussie I know your soft ass cried after the fight. He is #48 and Floyd left clean as a whistle and the irony you have a pic of #48 with both his hands raised even though his shoulder was "supposed" to be shot.

Yeah keep jocking #48 he left with his pride broken and beltless LMAO

[SthPaw]

I think you are accepting as factual claims that are made that are unlikely to be and using them to cast doubt on far more credible claims. You think Pacquiao's surgery was fake in some way? If you do then this is crazy, it really is. Pacquiao shouldn't have went through with the fight, he deserves a ****load of criticism for it but that is where the criticism should be made not these silly conspiracy theories.

This is how I feel too. Manny and his team deserve to be slated for it, sure. But theories and all that stuff don't really do anything for anyone. Look at it for what it is a criticise it, not think up a bunch of stuff and criticise that.

I think the injury claim is legitimate, but I do not dispute the fact that Floyd won fairly on the night... I do not think the commissions and the powers that be sabotaged Manny either, like some fans would have you believe... I believe team pacquiao and the injury claim, but that does not mean they are excused for losing, it means they are incredibly unwise to think that it would all work out fine.

Honestly if guys out there think that this injury is totally made up they are idiots. Same as on the other hand that if they think it was all because Manny was sabotaged then they are idiots. The fact is, Team Pac ran into a problem that they thought would work out ok and actually it did not. They lost the fight and now need to clear this up. A series of bad judgement calls.

[umop-ap!sdn]

Ok, and the well known professional orthopaedic surgeon would just put his livelyhood at risk just to lie for Pacquiao. A livelyhood that probably earns him millions every year. He will now take the risk of losing his license to ever practice again.

We are getting into the realm of ridiculous in this thread.

Of course we are with idiots like you running around trying to reason for the damn coward $48. This is gladly the last post of yours I will have to read as you are joining the "non true boxing fan" ignore list. The most telling part about this list is that is is filled up with #48 fanatics aka non boxing fans. Keep fighting the fight "brother" smh

[BoxingTrav]

I hope Floyd retires. He will never get the credit that he deserves. People want him to lose so badly. People who are intelligent, who saw the fight will try to tell you that Manny fought with one arm. They'd do this with a straight face.

Arum said this guy has had the injury for 7 years. Manny dominated, Hatton, Cotto and how many other guys with this same shoulder. It's amazing.

Floyd should give a young Lion like Thurman a payday and call it a career.

There is no possible scenario that would allow Floyd to receive credit for beating Manny.

[Spoon23]

Well one thing is clear. Pac entered with a torn rotator cuff before the fight. That is now a fact.

Pac fought with one effective hand and gave Floyd all he can handle.

Question is why nsac didn't allow Pac to use the numbing agent When it's practically legal, and you don't really even need to ask permission to use it. Knowing that, Why did nsac deny I legal medication?

Plot thickens.. So much back room drama and conspiracy in here.. Very Shady indeed.