Comments Thread For: The Big Lie

[Spoon23]

If weregoing by what Roach said at the time, they halted training bcuz Pac was starting to peak in training and they didnt want to over train. Either way you look at it, TeamPac has lost alotta credibility..how much ish have they lied about? Eithrr way this freakn bullshhh!! Floyd WON! The Pactrrds dont want a rematch either bcyz they know the outcome will be the same and they couldnt live with it..2 losses against Floyd? They never wanted the fight in the 1st place. Floyd was NO GOOD for anybody on TeamPac, look at the situation..LIES after LIES, Pac exposed as a lying fraud, excuses, his image as a "humble christian" shattered, the truth will always come to light. Its just ironic that Floyd brought all of that out of them. And on top of that, Bob managed to pay Pac only $25mill

lol are you're an idiot. Anything they say in camp shoud be taken with a grain of salt. Camps dont disclose the truth to there opponents or the media.

Are you that dumb to think, they will say to the media who btw are the ones hyping the fight that pac was injured? Use your common sense, it's kind a rusty.

[twosweethooks]

Pac obviously wanted to Fight.

Pac should have postponed the fight.

Both fighter after all the near billion dollars coming down and much of it thru corruption had to go thru with this fiasco.

Pac hoped his shoulder would hold together, but a blind eye could have seen when after he hurt Jr with the left and had him on the ropes in ***** street, letting both hands fly in round 4 he abruptly came away and Immediately gave me the sense , SOMETHING IS WRONG !!!!!!

No one, not Ali , Foreman , Fraizer or anyone could perform properly with something like a rotater cuff TEAR ,,,NOBODY!

Only IDIOTS LAUGH at that , so I just consider the source and move on, hahahahaha

Do the nice REMATCH, two old men by then, like JONES and HOPPY hahahaha

[twosweethooks]

video taken before the fight. sure don't look hurt.

don't be mad at me that everything I ever said about Manny came to fruition. He is who he is-you just refused to see it because you are a huge fan.

You will pay to see a rematch because Bob and Manny know that you are as passionate as you are gullible and ******.[/QUOTE]

He did look good in the beginning dunn, but at round 4 things changed when he hurt Jr and was throwing bombs then abruptly backed away ! The tear worsened, any sane person KNOWS it did and didn't GET BETTER ,,,OH enough of acting DUMB ! I would say the same for JR.

You and I would be good in the parts of the movie DUMB and DUMBER,,,YOU are the ,,,,hahahahhaha,,,,,DUMBER hahahahahhhhhahhahah

[BrometheusBob.]

It doesn't matter how much this story is elaborated on, most fans will simply continue to believe whatever suits their outlook.

If there was a casual fan only concerned with Floyd you made them read this it would not make a blind bit of difference to them. They will still tell you their same old angle that Manny is a liar and Floyd simply beat him. The doctor was paid to lie and his surgery was a smokescreen etc...

On the other hand if there is a casual fan only interested in Manny and you showed them this it would not change anything for them either. They would just tell you it supports their same old angle that Manny did not deserve to lose, he was one armed and was sabotaged by the powers that be and Floyd and Vegas where all in on it.

Articles that elaborate on the matter may be a ton more reliable than listening to off the fly comments from Arum/Floyd/Manny/Malignaggi etc...But in the long run people will still only chose to think whatever they want.

In my opinion, the fight should not have happened when it did. It is easy to say but still...I recognise Floyd as the winner of the fight they did have, I am not dis*****g the winner at all, but I believe in the injury too. I try and look at it down the middle and that is what I see.

Great post. Too bad I can't give out any of the green right now :-|

[g-wane]

NSAC has to act on what the fighter says, his doctor, a well known professional corroborated it. USADA approved the injection.

This is the kind of problem that happens when no one seems to be in charge. If one was in charge they would have known everything. The fighter would have known exactly what's happening fight night. It's hard enough for a fighter to get ready for a fight and has to deal with multiple en****** that aren't talking to each other and has to rely on the fighter to inform one and then the other. Maybe that should have been made clear to the fighter at the beginning, inform USADA then inform NSAC yourself.

this why Floyd says pac is getting used! Its not up to NSAS to do Pac paper work and make sure its done correctly it Pac's !

Its USADA job to advise Pac's what medication to take, but only tell him if it is a banned substance.
Based on all three conversations, pac and his team tried game their way around the rules using ambiguous statements and questions that came back to bite them in the ass!

[-Johannes-]

Money hungry people are the problem here.

Pacquiao could've tried to postpone the fight, if Floyd had thrown a temper tantrum and cancelled, Pacquiao would've been more of a hero and Mayweather would've been hated for eternity more than what he is now and a lot of his fans would've been pissed off at him. There's no way I could've defended Mayweather.

Pac could've said he wanted to 100% for the biggest fight of his career and give the people a good show. Had floyd ran off he could've just said that Floyd never wanted the fight and looked for a way out.

I think Koncz had a lot to do with this ****, there was no way he could've made anything to jeopardize the fight. The money was too damn good to pass up. If Pac was misguided by anyone then he deserves to punished for perjury, maybe now that'll open his eyes and get rid of unneeded people in his life.

**** what do I know, I just don't care for this anymore. We should all live with this outcome and move on. Pac fans have their excuse and their deserved feeling that Pac can beat May if he was 100% and Mayweather fans have their victory. It's been a long road, let's close the circle and move to other fighters.

[elishua F]

A few facts Tard nation is in denial about

°While watching the fight live, Manny being injured never crossed your mind, it only became true when he said it.
°Had Manny won the fight, he would've never revealed his "injury".
°Had Floyd lost the fight and then revealed an injury, you wouldn't give two ****s about it, you would not tarnish Mannys win.
°You know in your heart in a rematch nothing different happens, Floyd wins again. You just refuse to accept his greatness.
°You know once Floyd beats him in a rematch, you're just gonna use the surgery as an excuse.

Come on, Tard nation, prove me wrong.

[g-wane]

Dunn believed Pac shoulder injury was fake even with a well documented surgery.

But he believed Floyd was randomly drug tested by USADA even without video evidence of it.

Just like Webb

Floyd fan logic at its best.

yeah Pac holding up his hands in victory at the end of the fight !!SMH
Anyone that has a torn rotator cuff is NOT going to be able to raise their arms, especially as hard as pac was throwing the right hand, he should have been in anguish!! But because pac is a god he can take the pain right?! except that pain of losing !!!

[MrRolltide91]

all they had to do was say "yes" on the questionnaire

[BrometheusBob.]

Money hungry people are the problem here.

Pacquiao could've tried to postpone the fight, if Floyd had thrown a temper tantrum and cancelled, Pacquiao would've been more of a hero and Mayweather would've been hated for eternity more than what he is now and a lot of his fans would've been pissed off at him. There's no way I could've defended Mayweather.

Pac could've said he wanted to 100% for the biggest fight of his career and give the people a good show. Had floyd ran off he could've just said that Floyd never wanted the fight and looked for a way out.

I think Koncz had a lot to do with this ****, there was no way he could've made anything to jeopardize the fight. The money was too damn good to pass up. If Pac was misguided by anyone then he deserves to punished for perjury, maybe now that'll open his eyes and get rid of unneeded people in his life.

**** what do I know, I just don't care for this anymore. We should all live with this outcome and move on. Pac fans have their excuse and their deserved feeling that Pac can beat May if he was 100% and Mayweather fans have their victory. It's been a long road, let's close the circle and move to other fighters.

Hell no. We would still be hearing about how Pac *****ed out of the fight because of a 'fake' injury. And then Pac fans would be talking ish about how May doesn't want it with a 100% pac.

Not to suggest that fighting injured was the right thing to do to. Afterall, even with Toradol Pac would likely have damaged the cuff and required surgery (but at least then we would know pac had what he/his camp believed would allow him to fight through the injury, though that may very well not have been enough).