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    Either fighter going up against each other with rival PPVs on the same night will suffer. I don't know why people think Cotto vs Alvarez is guaranteed big numbers. Heck Cotto vs Margs II had a bigger angle and story behind it and did maybe 500K. If they go head to head with PPVs i'd expect both shows to probably generate that same 500K

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      why are people continuing to assume Mexicans drive PPV sales in the US? Middle and upper middle class whites drive ppv sales. SO the question becomes who would they support on that date-Floyd or Canelo. I think its clear it Floyd.

      As for the MGM and Vegas-no offense to Canelo-but Floyd fighting on those dates are the 2 biggest weekends for the whole Vegas community. If Canelo can show he can match or exceed Floyd-he will get the dates. It was significant that the high rollers/gamblers didn't gravitate toward the Maidana 2 fight.

      Otherwise it will be Floyd until he can no longer generate the money he does.

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        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        why are people continuing to assume Mexicans drive PPV sales in the US? Middle and upper middle class whites drive ppv sales. SO the question becomes who would they support on that date-Floyd or Canelo. I think its clear it Floyd.

        As for the MGM and Vegas-no offense to Canelo-but Floyd fighting on those dates are the 2 biggest weekends for the whole Vegas community. If Canelo can show he can match or exceed Floyd-he will get the dates. It was significant that the high rollers/gamblers didn't gravitate toward the Maidana 2 fight.

        Otherwise it will be Floyd until he can no longer generate the money he does.
        Urmmmmm.... What does the colour of their skin gotta do with it?
        Americans should want to see an American fight.

        So these so called middle class and upper class fans what would they rather see, bare in mind these are probably fans of the sport who enjoy entertainment...
        So they have Canelo Vs Cotto in the one corner
        Then they have Mayweather Vs (Flat footed plodder) in the other corner

        Hmmm choices, lol do they pay to see what they know will happen or do they pay to see an awesome atmosphere clash of Puerto Rican Vs Mexican fighters the biggest rivalry in boxing?
        It's a no brainer, Floyd will have some idiots who want to spend $69.99 to be bored to death then some smart people who will pay the lower price of PPV to watch an absolute war and likely a great undercard.

        Here take this

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          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          why are people continuing to assume Mexicans drive PPV sales in the US? ...
          ... Because of the FMJr vs Canelo fight, maybe? The biggest PPV sell in the history, maybe? Because he who fights pillow-gloved opponents only didn't release his PPV numbers for his last fight, maybe?

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            Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
            Either fighter going up against each other with rival PPVs on the same night will suffer. I don't know why people think Cotto vs Alvarez is guaranteed big numbers. Heck Cotto vs Margs II had a bigger angle and story behind it and did maybe 500K. If they go head to head with PPVs i'd expect both shows to probably generate that same 500K
            marg was on his way out when he fought cotto again. plus u're comparing margarito to canelo in star power. canelo vs cotto will have more hype than floyd vs anyone else not name manny. canelo vs cotto already has the mexico vs pr rivalry there to start off with.

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              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              why are people continuing to assume Mexicans drive PPV sales in the US? Middle and upper middle class whites drive ppv sales. SO the question becomes who would they support on that date-Floyd or Canelo. I think its clear it Floyd.

              As for the MGM and Vegas-no offense to Canelo-but Floyd fighting on those dates are the 2 biggest weekends for the whole Vegas community. If Canelo can show he can match or exceed Floyd-he will get the dates. It was significant that the high rollers/gamblers didn't gravitate toward the Maidana 2 fight.

              Otherwise it will be Floyd until he can no longer generate the money he does.
              they dont, except for when one of their top guy is facing another top guy on a day where they get together to celebrate.

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                On top of everything that's already been said, if Floyd doesn't face Pacquiao and chooses another opponent, expect many to BOYCOTT his next fight.

                And his numbers will hurt even more.

                #FightPacquiao

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                  Originally posted by Strategic1 View Post
                  On top of everything that's already been said, if Floyd doesn't face Pacquiao and chooses another opponent, expect many to BOYCOTT his next fight.

                  And his numbers will hurt even more.

                  #FightPacquiao
                  Whats the reason for Pacquiaos bad PPV numbers? I mean he isn't the one ducking Gayweather, yet dude is getting TNA pro wrestling PPV numbers.

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                    This want to "reclaim" dates by Canelo and Oscar is just dumb. Suppose you secure the date. And Mayweather decides to fight the week before. Guess what? Casuals aren't buying PPV's in successive weeks so Canelo loses. Just dumb.

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                      Is Cotto vs Canelo a good fight, yes it sure is. Casual fans of ALL RACES push ppvs. All casual fans know about Cotto and Canelo is that they both lost to Floyd and Manny. They know Floyd whooped Canelo and clearly beat Cotto. They also know Manny beat the brakes off Cotto. So with that knowledge tell me why more casual fans who don't follow boxing or know the details of quality fights why they would choose 2 losers over watching Floyd fight?

                      Hardcore fans know that Floyd vs Khan is not a better fight than Cotto vs Canelo but hardcore fans aren't the buyers that push ppv #s real high either.

                      Goes down to both sides are taking a huge risk with either fight for the money involved.

                      Cotto vs Martinez was supposed to be a big fight and flopped hard with 300K in ppv buys. Canelo supposed to be this big mexican star vs Lara does 300K. I'll give Canelo some leeway with Lara being unknown to most fans. But that goes back to the point about casual fans not knowing quality fights. Lara vs Canelo was a good quality fight and only hardcore fans bought that fight.

                      Cotto vs Canelo does 750K tops which is a great number truthfully. Floyd vs Khan might do 750 here in america and possibly do the same in the UK. That would be a win for Floyd and showtime.

                      Yall still don't get it though nobody is going to be forced to do a damn thing. Floyd vs Manny ain't going to f*@cking happen for whatever reasons anybody wants to believe.

                      Yes I want to see Floyd vs Manny but the fight is not going to happen.

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