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    Originally posted by tito_bandito View Post
    Okay, 300 amateur fights are impressive but it doesn't justify how he hasn't fought at a world class level in the pros. He's done NOTHING to get a fight with Mayweather. You don't know **** about boxing if you don't understand that fighting former world champs is important in the development of a fighter just as an amateur background is.
    Neither has ortiz, hatton, guerrero, marquez, canelo, etc....these guys were all just flavor of the month or were pulled out of a lower weight division. So in light of mayweathers past opposition ggg qualifies as an opponent. The problem is...mayweather avoids fighting anyone that might beat him

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      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
      LOL at my 'desperate begging'. It's GGG who said he would like the fight - a long time ago, though he also knows it's unlikely to ever happen. For some reason this is seen as a considerable crime, even tho he fights lighter than 'Nelo.

      I, personally would prefer him to move up. In fact, a fair few of the calls for FMJ - GGG are from Floyd fans who would like to see Mayweather cement his legacy as an ATG.

      Hey, if you don't want the fight, fair 'nuff. Ain't happening anyways. But if you think GGG can't box you're very much in the minority...you just stick to your guns tho'
      Out of curiosity what does GGG weigh on fight night usually? I'm on the fence about Mayweather moving up to middleweight. But seeing how he handled Canelo, who was 15 pounds heavier than him on fight night has got me interested.

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        Originally posted by spytactics View Post
        Neither has ortiz, hatton, guerrero, marquez, canelo, etc....these guys were all just flavor of the month or were pulled out of a lower weight division. So in light of mayweathers past opposition ggg qualifies as an opponent. The problem is...mayweather avoids fighting anyone that might beat him
        I am a Mayweather fan, but it always amazes me that his fans say "what has he done to earn a shot with Floyd" while ignoring the bold. My question is what has Mayweather done lately that his opponent has to be accomplished to the fullest extent?

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          Originally posted by Derranged View Post
          Out of curiosity what does GGG weigh on fight night usually? I'm on the fence about Mayweather moving up to middleweight. But seeing how he handled Canelo, who was 15 pounds heavier than him on fight night has got me interested.
          at fight nights 168-170 normally

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            Originally posted by spytactics View Post
            Neither has ortiz, hatton, guerrero, marquez, canelo, etc....these guys were all just flavor of the month or were pulled out of a lower weight division. So in light of mayweathers past opposition ggg qualifies as an opponent. The problem is...mayweather avoids fighting anyone that might beat him
            no, the problem is once mayweather beats them posters like you contradict yourselves about whether the opponent could beat floyd.

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              Originally posted by Plutonium View Post
              at fight nights 168-170 normally
              If Mayweather fought at middleweight, you'd have to think he'd be 155-156 max on fight night. And GGG re-hydrating to 168-170 doesn't sound too bad, it would more or less be the same weight difference in the Canelo fight.

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                Originally posted by Derranged View Post
                I am a Mayweather fan, but it always amazes me that his fans say "what has he done to earn a shot with Floyd" while ignoring the bold. My question is what has Mayweather done lately that his opponent has to be accomplished to the fullest extent?
                Ortiz beat Berto unexpectedly, became the highest non TR ww, so he got the fight. Ghost beat Berto unexpectedly, became the highest ranked non TR ww so he got the fight. Hatton moved up to ww specifically to fight floyd. JMM had been in 2 close fights with Manny, who people were comparing hifloyd to. Canelo was the other campion at JMW so they fought to unify.

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                  Originally posted by deejd View Post
                  He's getting it for the same reason Martinez was years ago for desperately wanting to fight Mayweather and the other guy.... the only difference is Martinez, at least, had fought and was proven at '54. There was always the detractors that had pre-made excuses about how old Martinez was and how he couldn't make it back down to '54 without being drained.

                  The biggest qualm I have about these naturally bigger guys is that they see the smaller guys bringing attention to the sport and they're the ones getting paid the highest right now, so they'll do whatever they can to land those fights when they could easily be making a name for themselves by fighting people their size or bigger. Problem is they can't box. Martinez can, but he's sliding and even he knew that if he went up to fight Ward (or almost any super middle) years ago, he'd have been starched. Thoroughly schooled Chavez Jr. (who's naturally bigger) and the moment he started taking leather in the 11th and 12th it had a major impact.

                  So here we are again, years removed from the desperate begging of posters for him to face a 35-year old Martinez, only now to a slew of new stans calling for Mayweather to face this 31-year old hypejob in GGG. The cycle continues.

                  At least Martinez could box.
                  Liking GGG doesn't mean you can't like and respect Mayweather. I think Mayweather is an ATG. I think GGG has potential to be a HOFer if not better. We need to see GGG take on the best.

                  I don't see how Mayweather needs to go to middleweight. Why? He was super-featherweight champion. Let him clear out 140-154. Then, in a year, if GGG takes out Stevens, Martinez, Quillin, then let the two meet. (If they can. Mayweather will be way past prime and the weight difference may be too much as well).

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                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                    Hey, if you don't want the fight, fair 'nuff. Ain't happening anyways. But if you think GGG can't box you're very much in the minority...you just stick to your guns tho' There's something almost impressive about such a determined refusal to acknowledge the obvious.
                    Still waiting............

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                      Originally posted by bklynboy View Post
                      Liking GGG doesn't mean you can't like and respect Mayweather. I think Mayweather is an ATG. I think GGG has potential to be a HOFer if not better. We need to see GGG take on the best.

                      I don't see how Mayweather needs to go to middleweight. Why? He was super-featherweight champion. Let him clear out 140-154. Then, in a year, if GGG takes out Stevens, Martinez, Quillin, then let the two meet. (If they can. Mayweather will be way past prime and the weight difference may be too much as well).
                      Couldn't care less about liking whomever. I'm looking at from the standpoint of fighter A can't even make a 152-lb limit on fight night while fighter B has been campaigning at '60 their entire career.

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