Toney or Wlad

[Super_Lightweight]

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That's all well and good, but Wlad has plenty of skills. His handspeed at heavyweight is uncanny, and he's one of the few guys with the offensive arsenal at heavyweight to land cleanly on Toney. Not only that, but Wlad can use his height and reach to get the better of Toney on the outside.

Wlad's main weakness (chin) will not come into play in this fight. If Ruiz can win 3-4 rounds off of Toney, Wlad can beat Toney.

[whdempsey]

That's all well and good, but Wlad has plenty of skills. His handspeed at heavyweight is uncanny, and he's one of the few guys with the offensive arsenal at heavyweight to land cleanly on Toney. Not only that, but Wlad can use his height and reach to get the better of Toney on the outside.

Wlad's main weakness (chin) will not come into play in this fight. If Ruiz can win 3-4 rounds off of Toney, Wlad can beat Toney.

Here's the thing. Against a fighter like Toney, straight punches don't land. And Wlad will stay on the oustide as much as he can, but Toney's too good and too experienced not too get inside. He just has to be fired-up and motivated.

Wlad's biggest weakness is his stamina, not his chin. His poor stamina is reliable, his shaky chin doesn't always have an effect on the outcome of the fight.

Ruiz won 3-4 rounds against a Toney who had had a week to prepare. And, I'm not gonna lie and say that Ruiz is better than he looks, but he is harder to beat than you'd think. His unorthodox style is harder to beat than Wlad's style.

[Leo Pradun]

why make it a point bet? let's bet on membership on boxingscene FOREVER! loser can NEVER return under any circumstances EVER!!!

i dont care lets do it, as soon as the fight happens, some of u clowns gotta start getting the hell outta here...

[Leo Pradun]

Here's the thing. Against a fighter like Toney, straight punches don't land. And Wlad will stay on the oustide as much as he can, but Toney's too good and too experienced not too get inside. He just has to be fired-up and motivated.

Wlad's biggest weakness is his stamina, not his chin. His poor stamina is reliable, his shaky chin doesn't always have an effect on the outcome of the fight.

Ruiz won 3-4 rounds against a Toney who had had a week to prepare. And, I'm not gonna lie and say that Ruiz is better than he looks, but he is harder to beat than you'd think. His unorthodox style is harder to beat than Wlad's style.

sure lets make excuses....

[MetalVomit]

why make it a point bet? let's bet on membership on boxingscene FOREVER! loser can NEVER return under any circumstances EVER!!!

Damn, it's getting serious.

[LondonRingRules]

==========Here's the thing. Against a fighter like Toney, straight punches don't land.=========

** That's funny how Ruiz managed tattoo Toney's ugly mug on a regular basis and even landed a straight up right uppercut gut shot on Toney that stopped him for the rest of the round.

Toney is a face first heavyweight and you boys are gonna see that that when he stops protecting himself and steps up against a big slugger. Rahman is pretty lethargic and may not be able to land his right, but if he does it's gonna be Lights Out Toney!

[HipsterRan]

I'm changing my pick. After listening to Klitschko's fans, I finally understand that he has no chance. If he is half as ****y as you guys are, he will get humilitated and stopped.

Toney has the skills. Wlad has nothing on Toney but physcial advantages. Skill almost always outweighs physical gifts.

Skill at beating nobody`s at the H.W. level !

Nobody is more ****y then Toney himself , DR. WLAD KO`s Toney with little problem !
I mean who the **** has Toney beat , what make poeple think he could beat the best skilled fighter at H.W. level WLAD ?

Any one of the fighter that Toney UD , Wlad would have KO`ed !

[Dirt E Gomez]

all u guys underate wlad thas allright u will see how good he is soon...

Honestly, is it crazy to think Toney can KO Wlad? I'd say if you compare fighters history it's a viable assertion to believe that Ruiz has a better chin overall than Wlad. If that's the case, it's not unreasonable to think that Toney an KO him. I don't think he will, but it's not as crazy as you think it is. I don't underrate wlad either, I think it'll be a great fight, but you overrate him as if he's the second comming of christ or something.

[oldgringo]

I find it funny how an uber-talented natural middleweight who moves all of the way up to heavyweight and beats on everyone he fights gets this little appreciation. As opposed to the 6'6, 240 pound talented heavyweight who was supposed to be the heir to the heavyweight crown, yet lacks the intangibles to be great, who is looked upon as if he invented the written word.

[HipsterRan]

I find it funny how an uber-talented natural middleweight who moves all of the way up to heavyweight and beats on everyone he fights gets this little appreciation. As opposed to the 6'6, 240 pound talented heavyweight who was supposed to be the heir to the heavyweight crown, yet lacks the intangibles to be great, who is looked upon as if he invented the written word.

When Toney beat somebody good at the H.W. level ,not FOUR bumbs that made it to the end of the fight without ever a bump or scratch on their faces !

Not one of these guy Toney beat , would have made it out of the fight on there feet if they got in the ring with Wlad !