not even close to being he best ever!
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostHe can be, is not only if you win but how you win. But, if Floyd beats Pac impressively and neither guy really accomplishes much after then yes I would have Floyd higher than Pac.
Not to mention FLoyd is naturally bigger and cant fight at 140 now.
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostPac is not the greatest southpaw of all time.
I have Pac around the top 30 ATG P4P. It would be damn near impossible for him to get into the top 10.
And, if he fights and beats Floyd and by some miracle fights and beats Martinez at 154-160. Then that could move him to the top 15-20 ATG ranking.
He beats the Morales, Barreras, JMM, Hattons, Cottos, Margaritos of this world. That in all is comparable to anything duran ever did. Most experts have no problem having Pac above SRL and Duran and you make out as if you are an authoritive figure or something and you know something other people dont. You dont!Last edited by hugh grant; 04-23-2011, 04:03 AM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostBS like usual. So what Pac has done before supposely losing to Floyd counts for nothing at all then? YOu achieve Jack when you are retired in your prime years like Floyd is, and then putting all your eggs in one basket landing the jackpot of beating Pac. Yes how Pac beat Hatton and DLH will always be more respected and awed than how FLoyd beat them so apply your rules.
Yes Pac is the greatest southpaw of all time. Pac beats the Cottos, Margaritos, Clotteys, Hattons like no one ever did or could, so apply your rules of how you beat people that is important. SRL and Duran wouldnt do to 18lb heavier margarito what Pac did.
He beats the Morales, Barreras, JMM, Hattons, Cottos, Margaritos of this world. That in all is comparable to anything duran ever did. Most experts have no problem having Pac above SRL and Duran and you make out as if you are an authoritive figure or something and you know something other people dont. You dont!
What historians have Pacqiauo above Leonard and Duran? Very few.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostBS like usual. So what Pac has done before supposely losing to Floyd counts for nothing at all then? YOu achieve Jack when you are retired in your prime years like Floyd is, and then putting all your eggs in one basket landing the jackpot of beating Pac. Yes how Pac beat Hatton and DLH will always be more respected and awed than how FLoyd beat them so apply your rules.
Yes Pac is the greatest southpaw of all time. Pac beats the Cottos, Margaritos, Clotteys, Hattons like no one ever did or could, so apply your rules of how you beat people that is important. SRL and Duran wouldnt do to 18lb heavier margarito what Pac did.
He beats the Morales, Barreras, JMM, Hattons, Cottos, Margaritos of this world. That in all is comparable to anything duran ever did. Most experts have no problem having Pac above SRL and Duran and you make out as if you are an authoritive figure or something and you know something other people dont. You dont!
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Originally posted by Haglerwins View PostRidiculous. This guy barely has one great prime fighter on his resume and he already lost one to a great out of his.
Bestowing this crap on him just because he defeated bigger men tailor made for him is ******ed.
Margarito - 'game' but not the same version pre-Mosley
Clottey - a WW gate keeper for awhile now.
Cotto - Margarito took this dude's soul.. solid attack pressure still looks like his kryptonite. Only credit I give Cotto, is he's showing to be kind of shot resistant so far. I think anybody else Margarito would've beat the hell out of with rocks in his hands like that for 11 rounds would be shot out of a tank at that point.
Hatton - chin was gone by the time Manny got him. (He got stunned by Paulie for sht's sake and was nearly KO'd by a nobody after Floyd)
Oscar - a bobble head sundried welter. Hadn't fought there for.. 12 years?
and what, 4 of those 5 had to fight at catch weights?
Greatest to ever do it when you look at all that? And keep in mind Roach's ****** comments demeaning Pac's own achievements by actually mentioning how done some of these guys he beat up on were, and making it obvious that's why the fights got made.
GOAT LOL.
He's not even touching Roy Jones' swag yet if you ask me, forget the greats of yesteryear.
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