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    #71
    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    Pac is not the greatest southpaw of all time.

    I have Pac around the top 30 ATG P4P. It would be damn near impossible for him to get into the top 10.

    And, if he fights and beats Floyd and by some miracle fights and beats Martinez at 154-160. Then that could move him to the top 15-20 ATG ranking.
    Top 30 is much more reasonable than the general consesus in this thread. But I still struggle to see Pac in my Top 30, personally.

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      #72
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      No, I don't.

      I don't take the guy who says Paul Williams is a mixture of Tommy Hearns and Pernell Whitaker seriously.

      But, no, he is not the greatest of all time, not even remotely close.
      Williams biggest problem is being an easy target to hit and his non existant jab, did Max really say this?

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        #73
        Originally posted by TuR'oK View Post
        i disagree with the part of pac beating floyd and martinez...if pac does beat them there should be no questions where pac should be ranked on those ATG lists...possibly 5th or higher
        I don't know man. I don't see how beating those 2 guys will rank him higher than SRR, Langford(went from LW to HW), Greb(arguably THE GOAT at MW, ATG at LHW and HW), Armstrong, B. Leonard, Pep, Ali. I mean that's 7 of the top 10 ATG IMO. I still think you can add Ross, Charles, and Moore to round of the top 10. And, I don't see how Pac could rank higher than anyone of them with wins over Floyd and Martinez.

        I think wins over Floyd and Martinez would put Pac on the level of the likes of Walker, Fitzsimmons, Louis, Sugar Ray Leonard, Duran, Gans, and those type of fighters those fighters are around the top 15 mark. And, Pac would be in that category. And, that's a hell of a compliment. It's no insult at all.

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          #74
          Originally posted by FeFist View Post
          Williams biggest problem is being an easy target to hit and his non existant jab, did Max really say this?
          He sure did.

          "Build like Tommy Hearns, stance like Pernell Whitaker and throws body punches like Julio Cesar Chavez" Max Kellerman.

          When referring to Paul Williams.

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            #75
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            Top 30 is much more reasonable than the general consesus in this thread. But I still struggle to see Pac in my Top 30, personally.
            That's fine. Is just an opinion. I have barely crackin my top 30. I also have Jones, Hopkins, and Floyd in my top 50. Which I might be in the minority in. And, I think Pac ranks higher than those 3 as well.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Haglerwins View Post
              Consider this.. you have posters here who have a hard time putting Roy Fking Jones Jr. in a Top 25 despite the fact:

              He was virtually undefeated his first 50 fights and beat all major rivals from 154 - 175

              Fought successfully from 154 to HW. Being the first MW to grab a HW belt in over 100 years.

              Has wins over TWO truly ATGs and one was undefeated, #2 p4p and undoubtedly in his prime when he embarrassed him.
              You love to talk about how PAC fought weight drained fighter yet you give Roy credit for beating Toney. And BTW, Hopkins was green when he first fought Roy.

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                #77
                Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                That's fine. Is just an opinion. I have barely crackin my top 30. I also have Jones, Hopkins, and Floyd in my top 50. Which I might be in the minority in. And, I think Pac ranks higher than those 3 as well.
                where would floyd be ranked if he beats manny?

                will he be ranked higher than manny?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by MrRolltide91 View Post
                  where would floyd be ranked if he beats manny?

                  will he be ranked higher than manny?
                  He can be, is not only if you win but how you win. But, if Floyd beats Pac impressively and neither guy really accomplishes much after then yes I would have Floyd higher than Pac.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by BoZz View Post
                    yea sure he's the greatest fighter,a guy who use to go down via body jabs ?? lol

                    a guy who's been fighting damaged goods who can't pull the trigger @ catch weight, the greatest fighter??? Really??

                    well if that's the case then I take my hat off to pacROID


                    damn 3rd leftover coming up

                    Bozz, one of the if not the ATG WHINER in BS!!!

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                      #80
                      Well he's career is light years better than p**sy azz Mayweather thats for sure.....

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