Max Kellerman calls Pacquiao the greatest fighter ever! Do you agree?

[BoZz]

yea sure he's the greatest fighter,a guy who use to go down via body jabs ?? lol

a guy who's been fighting damaged goods who can't pull the trigger @ catch weight, the greatest fighter??? Really??

well if that's the case then I take my hat off to pacROID

damn 3rd leftover coming up

[Haglerwins]

Ridiculous. This guy barely has one great prime fighter on his resume and he already lost one to a great out of his.

Bestowing this crap on him just because he defeated bigger men tailor made for him is ******ed.

Margarito - 'game' but not the same version pre-Mosley

Clottey - a WW gate keeper for awhile now.

Cotto - Margarito took this dude's soul.. solid attack pressure still looks like his kryptonite. Only credit I give Cotto, is he's showing to be kind of shot resistant so far. I think anybody else Margarito would've beat the hell out of with rocks in his hands like that for 11 rounds would be shot out of a tank at that point.

Hatton - chin was gone by the time Manny got him. (He got stunned by Paulie for sht's sake and was nearly KO'd by a nobody after Floyd)

Oscar - a bobble head sundried welter. Hadn't fought there for.. 12 years?

and what, 4 of those 5 had to fight at catch weights?

Greatest to ever do it when you look at all that? And keep in mind Roach's ****** comments demeaning Pac's own achievements by actually mentioning how done some of these guys he beat up on were, and making it obvious that's why the fights got made.

GOAT LOL.

He's not even touching Roy Jones' swag yet if you ask me, forget the greats of yesteryear.

[hugh grant]

Many respected historians have come round to the believe that Pac is the greatest of all times and nations.

He quite possibly is. On his day, doing what he can do, he would be expected to beat anyone. Overwhelms people mostly, like a human jack in the box exploding on you from everywhere.

[FerdinandMarcos]

Ridiculous. This guy barely has one great prime fighter on his resume and he already lost one to a great out of his.

Bestowing this crap on him just because he defeated bigger men tailor made for him is ******ed.

Margarito - 'game' but not the same version pre-Mosley

Clottey - a WW gate keeper for awhile now.

Cotto - Margarito took this dude's soul.. solid attack pressure still looks like his kryptonite. Only credit I give Cotto, is he's showing to be kind of shot resistant so far. I think anybody else Margarito would've beat the hell out of with rocks in his hands like that for 11 rounds would be shot out of a tank at that point.

Hatton - chin was gone by the time Manny got him. (He got stunned by Paulie for sht's sake and was nearly KO'd by a nobody after Floyd)

Oscar - a bobble head sundried welter. Hadn't fought there for.. 12 years?

and what 4, of those 5 had to fight at catch weights?

Greatest to ever do it when you look at all that? And keep in mind Roach's ****** comments demeaning Pac's own achievements by actually mentioning how done some of these guys he beat up on were, and making it obvious that's why the fights got made.

GOAT LOL.

He's not even touching Roy Jones' swag yet if you ask me, forget the greats of yesteryear.

Pac has the greatest matchmaking of all time.

[IronDanHamza]

Going up in weight is just a small extra credit sort of thing to me, its not what defines his greatness, but it certainly counts.

Jofre's dominance is overstated. overall he beat about as much top competition as Pacquiao has, and lost to the best fighter he ever faced. classic example of a guy getting rated highly for how good he looked...despite the fact that his best wins arent as good as wins over Barrera.

Wilde's longevity is also overstated. he had a lot of fights, yes, but a lot of his wins were over weak competition. and his professional career didnt last that long either, shorter than Pacquiao's. he also was fighting top competition for a sohrter amount of time than did Pacquiao, who has been fighting world class opponents for 12 years now, which is almost the equivilant to Wilde's entire career.

I dont rate someone like JCC highly because he went undefeated over 80 something fights. I rate him highly because he beat a lot of high calibur opponents. Having 100+ wins doesnt add much to your greatness to me, its all about level of opposition.

I disagree on all accounts.

We have been through this before, but Jofre is THE most dominant Bantamweight of all time, that includes, Olivares, Ortiz, Al Brown, Zarate, McGovern and others. That is enough to rank higher than Pacqiauo IMO.

Wilde again being the greatest Flyweight of all time bar none with a tremendous record that I personally rank higher than Pacqiauo's.

That's for me, though.

[fabie]

Here's my humble opinion on the matter:

•*Max as an ESPN "journalist" used the word POSSIBLY as in "Pacquiao POSSIBLY as one of the greatest boxer of all time" in his hyperbole while reporting this fight with the 8th weight level being "conquered" and on the line

I think we're putting too much stock on this one but sure I admit that having to use that word surely wouldn't waive or absolve him of all his journalistic sins in using hyperbole to market a fight...but it should be well understood.

Sure Pacquiao is ONE OF THE ATG and so the phraseology and idiom of Max surely illicited some fires from the Pacquiao detractors or "haters". Seen in this NSB site we can see the polarization that Pacquiao (and Mayweather) has caused.

But for me, it isn't either PAC or MAY who caused these, I think that the lack of the backbone of the NSAC being the commission of boxing should be the one who should be an authority to command and take care of ratings and such.

THere should be more power for the commission in determining, enforcing policies that would be detrimental to the sport.

[Alibata]

Most historians I go by passed away seeing very little of Pacqiauo or even none.

The likes of the IBRO I see as legit, who don't have Pacqiauo in the Top 25 of all time, I believe.

Off that top of my head I can't think of any. But like I said if you could provide a link for one feel free as I genuninely can't recall any.

The IBRO latest update for their lb for lb ATG was 2006. I guarantee you they will have pac within the top 20 when they revise that list.

[TouchyAndalou]

Ridiculous. This guy barely has one great prime fighter on his resume and he already lost one to a great out of his.

Bestowing this crap on him just because he defeated bigger men tailor made for him is ******ed.

Margarito - 'game' but not the same version pre-Mosley

Clottey - a WW gate keeper for awhile now.

Cotto - Margarito took this dude's soul.. solid attack pressure still looks like his kryptonite. Only credit I give Cotto, is he's showing to be kind of shot resistant so far. I think anybody else Margarito would've beat the hell out of with rocks in his hands like that for 11 rounds would be shot out of a tank at that point.

Hatton - chin was gone by the time Manny got him. (He got stunned by Paulie for sht's sake and was nearly KO'd by a nobody after Floyd)

Oscar - a bobble head sundried welter. Hadn't fought there for.. 12 years?

and what, 4 of those 5 had to fight at catch weights?

Greatest to ever do it when you look at all that? And keep in mind Roach's ****** comments demeaning Pac's own achievements by actually mentioning how done some of these guys he beat up on were, and making it obvious that's why the fights got made.

GOAT LOL.

He's not even touching Roy Jones' swag yet if you ask me, forget the greats of yesteryear.

Pacquiao only fought two of those opponents at catch weights - Margarito and Cotto - and they are the only two catch weight fights he's ever had, I'm pretty sure. But apart from that, you're right. Pacquiao's nowhere near the greatest of all-time, nowhere near the 10 greatest, and probably not near the 25 greatest, I don't think.

[Haglerwins]

Pacquiao only fought two of those opponents at catch weights - Margarito and Cotto - and they are the only two catch weight fights he's ever had, I'm pretty sure. But apart from that, you're right. Pacquiao's nowhere near the greatest of all-time, nowhere near the 10 greatest, and probably not near the 25 greatest, I don't think.

I meant to include the drained fighters in general, anywho, add Oscar. So that's 3 out of 5, not 4. Still not a good look. Ditto of course on the rest.

[tonyjones]

certainly a top 25 atg not only for his fighting but also good coverage he brings on the sport we love.....THIS FROM A MAJOR FLOYD FAN