Do You Have Mayweather In Your Top 100 ATG List?

[Las Vegas,]

no showing of decline whatsoever....it's you who prolly never seen how sweetpea struggled and almost ktfo by roger long before he fought hoya to overrate his ass that much....

Everytime I see you post on here you makes yourself look like a bigger fucking idiot every single time. Every single time. Just stop.

[jrosales13]

Again you're missing the point. I didn't use that list as an example because I think it's the most accurate portrayal of what I think the ATG list should be (which I wouldn't even know to begin with since 90 of those fighter's Ive never even seen). My argument here is that DLH and PBF are indeed a lot closer than what you may think. Also that the fact that DLH is a lot closer to 50 than 100 if you think PBF is debatable at being around 50.

No, is not. Because, that list is not credible FFS's.

So that's what PBF has done that's demonstratively better than DLH, just win? Forget the fact that most of those wins came against bums compared to the likes of sweet pea, tito, and chavez? Yes, his wins against HOF fighters include DLH, Mosley, and Hatton. A nice 3-0, bravo PBF, bravo. My goodness, Joe Calzaghe must be debatable also to be in the top 50. I mean, all he does is win and he's undefeated against HOF opposition.

Ummm....He lost that fight, if you want to give him that win then you will have to give him the lost over an old past prime Whitaker.

You can't have it both ways.

I'm sure DLH has done his fair share of dominating a weight division or two in his time.

What weight-class? 135? Compare that to Floyd run at 130, which other one 140? lets compare? What weight-class? Didn't dominate 147 at all. Floyd run at 130>>>>>>>>Oscar run at any single weight-class and that's not even debatable.

And off the top of my head one top fighter he has dominated is the guy in your sig, Tito. Only oscar will truly know why he did what he did, but for the most part he was giving Tito a boxing lesson, until he started running of course (which he clearly didn't need to do). I'm quite sure that if had just done what he was already doing he would have won a lopsided UD against a prime Tito.

But, he didn't and thus it wasn't a clear victory. So my statement is still stands. The best clear victory over a true prime top fighter is against Rafael Ruelas.

So yea...

[puga]

Everytime I see you post on here you makes yourself look like a bigger fucking idiot every single time. Every single time. Just stop.

everytime i see you post here, you post nothing...

[hugh grant]

thats your theory...but heres a fact: floyd does'nt have wins comparable to sweetpea and chavez sr win.....just tellin it like it is....

And DLH does just fight, and not all the other BS that comes along with floyd. DLH fought the best names available no fail, and yes some he lost, but that is what happens when you fight the best. Floyd lost to Castillo as well. It happens sometimes.

[jrosales13]

no showing of decline whatsoever....it's you who prolly never seen how sweetpea struggled and almost ktfo by roger long before he fought hoya to overrate his ass that much....

And, there you have it folks....

Baracuda, you're a fucking moron...STFU you clown.

This is my response to your dumbass...

[IronDanHamza]

no showing of decline whatsoever....it's you who prolly never seen how sweetpea struggled and almost ktfo by roger long before he fought hoya to overrate his ass that much....

So wait, you're saying Whitaker wasn't showing decline then proceed to say he struggled with Roger Mayweather? Who isn't even close to being a HOF fighter? A little confusing.

But on a real. Whitaker did NOT struggle with Roger Mayweather.....he damn near dominated.

LMAO @ 'almost ktfo' how on God's green earth was he almost 'ktfo'??????? Roger caught him and dropped him, in which Whitaker got up and was absolutely fine, and was NEVER in trouble or hurt again.

Watch fights, please.

[jrosales13]

And DLH does just fight, and not all the other BS that comes along with floyd. DLH fought the best names available no fail, and yes some he lost, but that is what happens when you fight the best. Floyd lost to Castillo as well. It happens sometimes.

Yea OK, lol

I guess you're not familiar with Oscar and his tactics then.

[jrosales13]

So wait, you're saying Whitaker wasn't showing decline then proceed to say he struggled with Roger Mayweather? Who isn't even close to being a HOF fighter? A little confusing.

But on a real. Whitaker did NOT struggle with Roger Mayweather.....he damn near dominated.

LMAO @ 'almost ktfo' how on God's green earth was he almost 'ktfo'??????? Roger caught him and dropped him, in which Whitaker got up and was absolutely fine, and was NEVER in trouble or hurt again.

Watch fights, please.

Watching fights is a little too complicated for Baracuda.

That would mean for him to be a real boxing fan, and that my friend, is just asking too much.

[badass316]

And, you can easily turn it around and say that he lost to Whitaker, Quartey, and Sturm.

Sure, can't argue that. Especially the sweet pea and Sturm fights. Although I think he did enough to beat Ike.

Because, you're basically saying losses to great fighters outweigh actual wins. Which is ridiculous.

My point went over your head again. Not once did I mention or even hinted that "losses outweigh wins." I said that losses are part of the boxer's body of work. PBF doesn't have nearly enough great wins to offset anything DLH has done in my opinion. And judging from their whole body of work, DLH has the better resume. Heck even if you just went with wins DLH still outdoes him. Chavez and Sweet Pea are better than anything PBF can claim.

He actually doesn't have a losing record but doesn't have a winning record either.

Actually he does, I thought we went over this already. He was 4-5 against HOF opposition. DeJesus doesn't count since he wasn't listed in IBHOF. So he isn't 6-6 like you mentioned.

Whether I am or not, is irrelevant. I just know enough to know that Oscar is not closer to top 50 than top 100...

Then that's your opinion, which I highly disagree with and will continue to do so whenever this subject (and its little nuances) is brought up lol

[puga]

And DLH does just fight, and not all the other BS that comes along with floyd. DLH fought the best names available no fail, and yes some he lost, but that is what happens when you fight the best. Floyd lost to Castillo as well. It happens sometimes.

yup that too......floyd's got one loss supposedly...hoya's got losses that should've been wins.....if only we can count those...