Do You Have Mayweather In Your Top 100 ATG List?

[badass316]

I know you said you don't necessarily agree with that list, but that list truley is ridiculous. Atleast that portion.

I mean, Monzon below Oscar? Now that is blasphemy.

Now that is actually agreeable in my opinion. DLH being considered as non-comparable to the great PBF is not.

[puga]

Floyd and DLH are neck and neck in the ATG list i would say. DLH beat pernel witaker, not sure Floyd would. DLH lost to SSM but it was prime SSM. He lost to Trinidad, im not sure Floyd would ever fight Trinidad. DLH lost to BH, and so would Floyd.

So some people think DLH is as high as no50? Well Floyd should be around there as well then.

if you really consider hoya being robbed in the tito fight, along with the shane rematch, there really is quite a margin between hoya and floyd's resume ,which favors oscar..the only thing that kinda evens it out is floyd's undefeated record, that is it....

[jrosales13]

So what? Roberto Duran has more losses than wins against HOF opposition, it doesn't make him any less of a fighter. And a few of those losses in DLH's resume are highly questionable. I think he beat Tito, and Mosley in the 2nd fight.

And, you can easily turn it around and say that he lost to Whitaker, Quartey, and Sturm.

What? That's out of left field there. How does that correlate to what I've said?

Because, you're basically saying losses to great fighters outweigh actual wins. Which is ridiculous.

Roberto Duran.

He actually doesn't have a losing record but doesn't have a winning record either.

Did I presume to say that I am an expert on boxing history? No

And please read more carefully, I didn't refer to PBF being a home***ual. That was intended to be oscar (with his whole fishnet fiasco and all).

Do you presume to be an expert on boxing history? From where I'm standing you seem to think that you do. You may not see it, but from the perspective of a person looking from the outside you do. At least that's my opinion, take with a grain of salt.

Whether I am or not, is irrelevant. I just know enough to know that Oscar is not closer to top 50 than top 100...

[IronDanHamza]

No the #1 factor is performance. Not age, you can burn out on your late 20's or still go strong on your mid 30's to say age is not a factor is ridiculous.

And, going by performance yes Whitaker had slipped tremendously and still made a prime Oscar look foolish and arguably beat him.

JCC was past his prime, it had been years since he had a good win and didn't have a good win afterwards either. He was past prime. And, that would happen when you're in your 30's a pro for 16 years and close to 100 pro fights.

Puga are you really F'ing serious?

Oh, He's serious.

As tremendously absurd his statments get, believe he is serious.

It's slightly worrying, actually.

"Chavez and Whitaker better than Floyds whole resume! Yay!!!"

[jrosales13]

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so ridiculous. Oscar best clear victory over against a true prime top fighter. Is against Rafael Ruelas.

Yet this mofo is closer to the top 50 than top 100?

I swear this fraud fooled a lot of noobs, who just go to boxrec look for familiar names. And, think this mofo is great.

[jrosales13]

Oh, He's serious.

As tremendously absurd his statments get, believe he is serious.

It's slightly worrying, actually.

"Chavez and Whitaker better than Floyds whole resume! Yay!!!"

I'm just wondering, what's behind his dumbass statement...Is it lack of boxing knowledge? Or just pure hatred for Floyd?

[puga]

No the #1 factor is performance. Not age, you can burn out on your late 20's or still go strong on your mid 30's to say age is not a factor is ridiculous.

And, going by performance yes Whitaker had slipped tremendously and still made a prime Oscar look foolish and arguably beat him.

JCC was past his prime, it had been years since he had a good win and didn't have a good win afterwards either. He was past prime. And, that would happen when you're in your 30's a pro for 16 years and close to 100 pro fights.

Puga are you really F'ing serious?

hey both go hand in hand.....pac got knock the **** out twice at a young age did'nt madke him past prime.....age is the stanrdan factor....followed by performance ...there was no sign of slippgae from pea or chavez prior to fighting hoya, or else they wouldnt have beaten eveybody that was put in front of them....thats just your bull**** high horse talking there....look at bhop, the man is still kinking ass an he's old enough to be sweetpea's and chave'z sr's daddy when they fought hoya....lol

[jrosales13]

hey both go hand in hand.....pac got knock the **** out twice at a young age did'nt madke him past prime.....age is the stanrdan factor....followed by performance ...there was no sign of slippgae from pea or chavez prior to fighting hoya, or else they wouldnt have beaten eveybody that was put in front of them....thats just your bull**** high horse talking there....look at bhop, the man is still kinking ass an he's old enough to be sweetpea's and chave'z sr's daddy when they fought hoya....lol

Obviously you didn't watch these during this time or probably just didn't watch boxing period.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm just wondering, what's behind his dumbass statement...Is it lack of boxing knowledge? Or just pure hatred for Floyd?

Both. I genuinely believe it's both.

I mean, they say things like Cotto has a better resume than Floyd etc which is obviously blind hate.

But then on the flipside they say 'Floyd is around Top 50 ATG' as if it's a diss. When really that is an amazing accomplishment and incredibley reasonable for Floyd

[KnockUTheFukOut]

lol Mayweather was in the Top 50 long before many of you started following boxing believe it or not, his 130-135 career ALONE puts him in the TOP 50 ALL TIME IMO

lol at "Oscar De La Hoya" the Guy that LOST EVERY BIG MATCH HE WAS EVER IN and even some of the ones he won was controversial...I give him for credit for what he done as far as being one of the biggest Draws in Boxing History but as far as Skills and Production in the Ring...NO WAY I PUT HIM OVER MAYWEATHER All Time, but hey some people don't like Mayweather so they will try to find anybody to put over him lol