Do You Have Mayweather In Your Top 100 ATG List?

[jrosales13]

Both. I genuinely believe it's both.

I mean, they say things like Cotto has a better resume than Floyd etc which is obviously blind hate.

But then on the flipside they say 'Floyd is around Top 50 ATG' as if it's a diss. When really that is an amazing accomplishment and incredibley reasonable for Floyd

He made me chuckle by saying Whitaker didn't show any signs of slippage prior to fighting Oscar. I guess he didn't watch Whitaker fights with Rivera and Hurtado.

I think it's pretty safe to say Puga wasn't watching boxing back then. And, is too lazy to do any kind of research besides looking at boxrec.

[puga]

I'm just wondering, what's behind his dumbass statement...Is it lack of boxing knowledge? Or just pure hatred for Floyd?

its you who still has to make an argument as to why hoya and floyd are not close in legacy homeboy.....lol

[IronDanHamza]

hey both go hand in hand.....pac got knock the **** out twice at a young age did'nt madke him past prime.....age is the stanrdan factor....followed by performance ...there was no sign of slippgae from pea or chavez prior to fighting hoya, or else they wouldnt have beaten eveybody that was put in front of them....thats just your bull**** high horse talking there....look at bhop, the man is still kinking ass an he's old enough to be sweetpea's and chave'z sr's daddy when they fought hoya....lol

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Why do it? Saying **** like "Whitaker showed no decline" literally screams 'I didn't watch boxing at this time'

I mean, Whitaker was clearly on the slide at this time. Clearly.

[badass316]

lol @ ESPN rankings. Look at that list, do you really think it's a credible list? Really? Look at some of then names and look at where they're place. And, you think that list is credible?

If you really do then I don't even feel like debating. Because, again it will be obvious that you do not know much about the history of the sport and it's great fighters.

Again you're missing the point. I didn't use that list as an example because I think it's the most accurate portrayal of what I think the ATG list should be (which I wouldn't even know to begin with since 90 of those fighter's Ive never even seen). My argument here is that DLH and PBF are indeed a lot closer than what you may think. Also that the fact that DLH is a lot closer to 50 than 100 if you think PBF is debatable at being around 50.

What Floyd has done? Win actually, dominate a weight-class actually, dominate pretty much top fighters that he has faced actually, have a winning record against HOF fighters, something that Oscar has never done. EVER!!!!

So that's what PBF has done that's demonstratively better than DLH, just win? Forget the fact that most of those wins came against bums compared to the likes of sweet pea, tito, and chavez? Yes, his wins against HOF fighters include DLH, Mosley, and Hatton. A nice 3-0, bravo PBF, bravo. My goodness, Joe Calzaghe must be debatable also to be in the top 50. I mean, all he does is win and he's undefeated against HOF opposition.

I'm sure DLH has done his fair share of dominating a weight division or two in his time. And off the top of my head one top fighter he has dominated is the guy in your sig, Tito. Only oscar will truly know why he did what he did, but for the most part he was giving Tito a boxing lesson, until he started running of course (which he clearly didn't need to do). I'm quite sure that if had just done what he was already doing he would have won a lopsided UD against a prime Tito.

[jrosales13]

lol Mayweather was in the Top 50 long before many of you started following boxing believe it or not, his 130-135 career ALONE puts him in the TOP 50 ALL TIME IMO

lol at "Oscar De La Hoya" the Guy that LOST EVERY BIG MATCH HE WAS EVER IN and even some of the ones he won was controversial...I give him for credit for what he done as far as being one of the biggest Draws in Boxing History but as far as Skills and Production in the Ring...NO WAY I PUT HIM OVER MAYWEATHER All Time, but hey some people don't like Mayweather so they will try to find anybody to put over him lol

I disagree with that.

If he would have retired after the Jesus Chavez fight, It would be very difficult to put him in the top 100 ATG list.

His run at 130, made him an ATG Super featherweight. Made him arguably a top 3 greatest 130 pounder of all time. But, not top 50 P4P ATG.

[puga]

Obviously you didn't watch these during this time or probably just didn't watch boxing period.

thats your theory...but heres a fact: floyd does'nt have wins comparable to sweetpea and chavez sr win.....just tellin it like it is....

[puga]

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Why do it? Saying **** like "Whitaker showed no decline" literally screams 'I didn't watch boxing at this time'

I mean, Whitaker was clearly on the slide at this time. Clearly.

no showing of decline whatsoever....it's you who prolly never seen how sweetpea struggled and almost ktfo by roger long before he fought hoya to overrate his ass that much....

[Las Vegas,]

No. Calzaghe is ranked higher than Mayweather is and hes not a top 100 ATG.

Are you actually comparing Calzaghe to Mayweather? I lol'd....

[IronDanHamza]

Again you're missing the point. I didn't use that list as an example because I think it's the most accurate portrayal of what I think the ATG list should be (which I wouldn't even know to begin with since 90 of those fighter's Ive never even seen). My argument here is that DLH and PBF are indeed a lot closer than what you may think. Also that the fact that DLH is a lot closer to 50 than 100 if you think PBF is debatable at being around 50.



So that's what PBF has done that's demonstratively better than DLH, just win? Forget the fact that most of those wins came against bums compared to the likes of sweet pea, tito, and chavez? Yes, his wins against HOF fighters include DLH, Mosley, and Hatton. A nice 3-0, bravo PBF, bravo. My goodness, Joe Calzaghe must be debatable also to be in the top 50. I mean, all he does is win and he's undefeated against HOF opposition.

I'm sure DLH has done his fair share of dominating a weight division or two in his time. And off the top of my head one top fighter he has dominated is the guy in your sig, Tito. Only oscar will truly know why he did what he did, but for the most part he was giving Tito a boxing lesson, until he started running of course (which he clearly didn't need to do). I'm quite sure that if had just done what he was already doing he would have won a lopsided UD against a prime Tito.

Not really the same, though.

Compare what fighters they fought were in the Top 5 at the time of when they fought them in thier respective divisions.

Calazaghe fought 3, in the top 5 at the time he fought them in his entire career. Mayweather's are in double figures.

Not really the same.

[puga]

He made me chuckle by saying Whitaker didn't show any signs of slippage prior to fighting Oscar. I guess he didn't watch Whitaker fights with Rivera and Hurtado.

I think it's pretty safe to say Puga wasn't watching boxing back then. And, is too lazy to do any kind of research besides looking at boxrec.

roger mayweather almost knocked him the **** out...i guess thats showing slippage too huh,for being past prime?...gtfoh with your BS...