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    #81
    Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

    Usyk barely beat a faded Chisora but you think he puts up a great fight against a prime Holyfield? Good stuff.
    Usyk easily beat faded Chisora, besides do you know who got an 8 count from Henry Cooper ?

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      #82
      Originally posted by famicommander View Post
      Omar Narvaez and Adrian Hernandez are super underrated early career wins for Inoue in my opinion.

      Narvaez had won a belt at 108 and defended it 16 times, moved up and won a belt at 112 and defended it 11 times, was the clear #1 at the time of the Inoue fight, and to that point his only loss was to Donaire at 118.

      Hernandez was also the clear #1 at the time and was in his 2nd reign with 6 successful defenses when Inoue stopped him.
      Narvaez was 39. The fact that he was the clear #1 in the weight class says more about the quality/depth of the weight class than anything else.

      Someone said it earlier but Inoue doesn’t really have the contemporaries to test his greatness. That’s not his fault, but skipping over the ones who WERE there (Chocolatito, Gallo Estrada, Sor Rungvisai) and avoiding Akhmadaliev doesn’t help.





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        #83
        Usyk is by the far the only fighter since Floyd retired that has truly impressed me and has the resume to match

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          #84
          Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

          Lol blocked, none of the people you named were heavyweights and Usyk isn't Russian, I am blocking you. Go away.
          No but Usyk is White.

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            #85
            Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post
            Yeah, something is seriously wrong with you, You just claimed Usyk beat Tyson Fury and since Tyson Fury is a bigger heavyweight it means Usyk is a ATG. Then I tell you there were tons of bigger heavyweights back in the 1990s and you response is being bigger doesn't make you better. Joe Joyce, Zhang, Bakole have never even fought for the title so how are they defining a era? Wait Tyson Fury is defining this era? Because he beat a old Wlad 10 years ago? The only bigger heavyweights who won titles in this era are Tyson Fury who is 6'7 and fat, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder who is a natural 210 pound guy, Lance Whitaker, Michael Grant, Henry Akinwande, Jorge Luis Gonzales ect were all bigger and the reason they didn't win the title was because they fought better people. Each of these guys were considered top heavyweights regardless of what you want to believe. But you could also add 6'6 270 pound guys like Jameel McCline but you could also mention the tons of 6'4 to 6'4 1/2 guys like Andrew Golota, Rid**** Bowe, Lennox Lewis etc. But yeah since Tyson Fury, Wilder, and Joshua were champions since 2010 it clearly means there are far bigger heavyweights today.

            Yep you are clearly mentally handicapped. Be a dear and don't message me again and I won't message you again​
            Good points.

            I think Usyk could definitely hang in the 90’s but I don’t see him dominating against the likes of Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, Mike Tyson etc.

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              #86
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              Good points.

              I think Usyk could definitely hang in the 90’s but I don’t see him dominating against the likes of Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, Mike Tyson etc.
              Lol Usyk could hang with the best of the 90's? Why? Because you said so? IT is funny how none of you can answer basic questions. Who did Usyk beat in this watered down era that was so good that you now believe Uysk could hang with any half way decent fighter in the 90's? Anthony Joshua after Ruiz beat him first? So could Ruiz hang with the fighters of the 90's? If he a ATG now? Wait Usyk beat Dubois after Joe Joyce beat him first? Could Joyce hang with the best of the 90's now? Is Joyce a ATG? Wait because Usyk beat a drugged out version of Tyson Fury who has done nothing with his career besides beat 40 year old Wlad and no talent Deontay Wilder? Come on dude.

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                #87
                Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

                Lol Usyk could hang with the best of the 90's? Why? Because you said so? IT is funny how none of you can answer basic questions. Who did Usyk beat in this watered down era that was so good that you now believe Uysk could hang with any half way decent fighter in the 90's? Anthony Joshua after Ruiz beat him first? So could Ruiz hang with the fighters of the 90's? If he a ATG now? Wait Usyk beat Dubois after Joe Joyce beat him first? Could Joyce hang with the best of the 90's now? Is Joyce a ATG? Wait because Usyk beat a drugged out version of Tyson Fury who has done nothing with his career besides beat 40 year old Wlad and no talent Deontay Wilder? Come on dude.
                The 90s was an era full of PEDS. Forget the 90s and compare Usyk to any other era, including the era in which Ali was downed by Henry Cooper.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                  Whats your point what are trying to state, I dont get your stories, I think Mike Tyson smokes him, I think Ali would box his ears of and I think Holyfeild would be a great fight, what is your problem ?
                  Yes but keep in mind that you the same person that thinks a resume of prime fighters in Corrales (who ?), post-chickendance Judah and Hatton tops the resume of Usyk.
                  Last edited by Haka; 12-22-2024, 05:13 AM.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post
                    Yeah, something is seriously wrong with you, You just claimed Usyk beat Tyson Fury and since Tyson Fury is a bigger heavyweight it means Usyk is a ATG. Then I tell you there were tons of bigger heavyweights back in the 1990s and you response is being bigger doesn't make you better. Joe Joyce, Zhang, Bakole have never even fought for the title so how are they defining a era? Wait Tyson Fury is defining this era? Because he beat a old Wlad 10 years ago? The only bigger heavyweights who won titles in this era are Tyson Fury who is 6'7 and fat, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder who is a natural 210 pound guy, Lance Whitaker, Michael Grant, Henry Akinwande, Jorge Luis Gonzales ect were all bigger and the reason they didn't win the title was because they fought better people. Each of these guys were considered top heavyweights regardless of what you want to believe. But you could also add 6'6 270 pound guys like Jameel McCline but you could also mention the tons of 6'4 to 6'4 1/2 guys like Andrew Golota, Rid**** Bowe, Lennox Lewis etc. But yeah since Tyson Fury, Wilder, and Joshua were champions since 2010 it clearly means there are far bigger heavyweights today.

                    Yep you are clearly mentally handicapped. Be a dear and don't message me again and I won't message you again​
                    You are the one clearly handicapped here and very biased too. They didn't won titles because they are not as good as you think they were, which is a Fact. Only in your head they are all top fighters. You are delusional and that's who you really are.

                    I already explained to you an Era is defined by its top fighters. And the top fighters during 90s aren't as big as HW of today. Which is again is a fact you chose to ignore.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Haka View Post

                      Yes but keep in mind that you the same person that thinks a resume of prime fighters in Corrales (who ?), post-chickendance Judah and Hatton tops the resume of Usyk.
                      Yes what? you talk rubbish that doesnt make sense. Ive never seen a poster jumping around so much as you, as soon as you get slapped your go off on to something else.

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