Oleksandr Usyk is the greatest fighter since…

[shawnkemp804]

WBO wasn't fully recognize as major title until the 2000s but try again. Insulting "Current" big fighters who won titles while trying to prop up "Old" big fighters who were only contenders is a nice way to show your bias with old fighters.

Vitali and Wlad are both big but wasn't the top dog that time. Wlad feasted on smaller fighters during his reign in the 2000s and considered by many as one of the weakest HW era. The Klitschko brothers were mainly 2000s fighters and not 90s

Lol and the only big fighter you can name is Tyson Fury. Michael Grant, Jorge Luis Gonzales, Lance Whitaker, Henry Akinwande, were all considered contenders. Hell Nikolai Valuev also turned pro in the 1990's and became champion in the 2000's. So you only know Tyson Fury as being a big fighter and then claim the fighters are bigger now? Funny stuff. Deontay WIlder is 6'6 but weighs 210 pounds which means Wilder weighs less than the 5'10 Mike Tyson. Also who did Wilder get the title from? Bermaine Stiverne a bum. Joshua is around 6'5 1/2 and 230 depending on how much PED he is using and he only won the title because he beat Charles Martin for crying out loud. Whitaker, Akinwande, Gonzales, Grant etc would of beat Charles Martin as well.

Then you say Wlad only fought small guys? Lol Usyk is a small guy dude that you claim is great. You people who flip flop when it fits your agenda. Wlad fought various 6'6/6'7 guys doing his title reign. But if you want to say that doesn't mean anything because Wlad wasn't that good then how is Fury beating a old Wlad something special? I know what you will say. But you didn't say it was. So if Wlad isn't special and Fury isn't special then how is Usyk a ATG because he beat Fury? You are one funny kid.

[shawnkemp804]

damn. You really hate us crackas huh. This has been a wild read lol

Lol my favorite boxers were Tommy Morrison and George Foreman. I don't play the race card I play the fact card. Black people extremely biased but these white guys are even more so. The same white Europeans who are on Tyson Fury and now Usyk bandwagon where were they in the 19960's through early 2000's when blacks dominated the heavyweight division? The moment they get a white champion it goes to their heads and now they come out the boondocks and pretend to be legit boxing fans.

Lets keep it going. Black people love Mike Tyson because he is black but when he beat Trevor Berbick to become champion I never heard a black guy say he was a ATG for that. Fury beats a 40 year old Wlad and didn't even look good doing it and now he is a ATG and Usyk beats a druggy version of Fury and now Usyk is a ATG apparently.

[Haka]

Ursk is a great but to say the best of the greats is a reach, old school prime Ali , then prime Tyson and prime Holyfield would all give him a world of problems, I would bet on Ali Tyson wins, Holyfield would be a great fight. all of them are greats in my book.

it is just pathetic isn’t it, when you look at prime fighters there is only Hatton,Judah en corralles who all came from lower weights , keep the facts straights. That is not on the level of Usyk AT ALL.

[Haka]

Lol I know your white, I know how white guys don't know a damn thing about boxing. I know you only like Usyk beat he is white. Shawn Kemp was also fat drug addict who had tons of kids with tons of women. Why do I give a damn. Lol you think I am going to cry over a man on TV I don't know? I picked this screen name because I had tons of his basketball cards as a 10 year old kid. Lol but you now what is even more funny? Michael Jordan said Kemp was one of the most talented players he ever seen play. Kevin Garnett, Larry Bird, David Robinson have all stated the same thing. But I guess your opinion means more than theirs

Also Usyk beat every top heavyweight out there? You mean in a era where nobody watches boxing? You mean in a where Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul drew more views than this fight? Usyk beat a fat druggy Tyson Fury who only beat a old Wlad, Usyk beat Anthony Joshua after Andy Ruiz beat him first. Usyk beat Daniel Dubous after Joe Joyce beat him first. So I guess, Andy Ruiz and Joe Joyce are ATG now right?

Lol why I am typing boxing to a white guy to began with. Talking to a white guy about boxing is like talking to a animal about religion. It is just a animal. I can't understand what you are saying and even if it could it couldn't grasp what you are saying. The same thing as a white guy, The moment you see a white guy win a belt in boxing you will see white guys come out the boondocks to overhype them.

So keep crying over your white boyfriend Usyk. He will still be a bum.

Trevor Berbick is a bum, old Larry holmes is a bum, buster douglas is a bum. Not really ‘Bums’ but you know where this is going.

[gamesworn]

Lol and the only big fighter you can name is Tyson Fury. Michael Grant, Jorge Luis Gonzales, Lance Whitaker, Henry Akinwande, were all considered contenders. Hell Nikolai Valuev also turned pro in the 1990's and became champion in the 2000's. So you only know Tyson Fury as being a big fighter and then claim the fighters are bigger now? Funny stuff. Deontay WIlder is 6'6 but weighs 210 pounds which means Wilder weighs less than the 5'10 Mike Tyson. Also who did Wilder get the title from? Bermaine Stiverne a bum. Joshua is around 6'5 1/2 and 230 depending on how much PED he is using and he only won the title because he beat Charles Martin for crying out loud. Whitaker, Akinwande, Gonzales, Grant etc would of beat Charles Martin as well.

Then you say Wlad only fought small guys? Lol Usyk is a small guy dude that you claim is great. You people who flip flop when it fits your agenda. Wlad fought various 6'6/6'7 guys doing his title reign. But if you want to say that doesn't mean anything because Wlad wasn't that good then how is Fury beating a old Wlad something special? I know what you will say. But you didn't say it was. So if Wlad isn't special and Fury isn't special then how is Usyk a ATG because he beat Fury? You are one funny kid.

Actual World Champions >> Contenders. You can add more contenders you want, but that doesn't change the FACT they are still contenders and not the Top Champions of their time.

You are way too fixated on Usyk's win against Fury. Fury is only part of Usyk career. He doesn't define Usyk's whole career.

Also now you are moving to more modern fighters in the 2000s because your argument of big fighters during 90s has failed. lmao

[Roadblock]

it is just pathetic isn’t it, when you look at prime fighters there is only Hatton,Judah en corralles who all came from lower weights , keep the facts straights. That is not on the level of Usyk AT ALL.

Talk sense you mumbling idiot you cant even get your hate right, ask your new friend AI lol it will agree with what you feed it.

[gamesworn]

I will give you another example how to define an era. Leonard and Hearns WW was an era of bigger welterweight fighters in comparison to Pac and Mayweather WW era, which was considered small by fans. We define the era based on the top fighters of the time, not based on contenders and lower ranked fighters. Bigger doesn't mean better fighters. Leonard and Hearns are naturally bigger than Pac and Mayweather.

[Haka]

Lol my favorite boxers were Tommy Morrison and George Foreman. I don't play the race card I play the fact card. Black people extremely biased but these white guys are even more so. The same white Europeans who are on Tyson Fury and now Usyk bandwagon where were they in the 19960's through early 2000's when blacks dominated the heavyweight division? The moment they get a white champion it goes to their heads and now they come out the boondocks and pretend to be legit boxing fans.

Lets keep it going. Black people love Mike Tyson because he is black but when he beat Trevor Berbick to become champion I never heard a black guy say he was a ATG for that. Fury beats a 40 year old Wlad and didn't even look good doing it and now he is a ATG and Usyk beats a druggy version of Fury and now Usyk is a ATG apparently.

how many soviet killers did those 90s fighters beat ? There must’ve been some talent in the soviet era, statistically speaking, not being able to compete because of politics. Plus the fact that Usyk has never been in trouble really.

[shawnkemp804]

how many soviet killers did those 90s fighters beat ? There must’ve been some talent in the soviet era, statistically speaking, not being able to compete because of politics. Plus the fact that Usyk has never been in trouble really.

Lol there are Soviet boxers now. How many Soviet champions are there? Also what does anything you type have to do with what I typed? Usyk beat who to be considered a ATG? Hype job Anthony Joshua and overrated Tyson Fury.

[shawnkemp804]

I will give you another example how to define an era. Leonard and Hearns WW was an era of bigger welterweight fighters in comparison to Pac and Mayweather WW era, which was considered small by fans. We define the era based on the top fighters of the time, not based on contenders and lower ranked fighters. Bigger doesn't mean better fighters. Leonard and Hearns are naturally bigger than Pac and Mayweather.

What the hell are you even trying to type lol? You said the heavyweights are bigger now and then when I tell you there were tons of big heavyweights in the 1990s you turn around and say size doesn't matter. Also Pac and and Mayweather aren't natural 147 pound fighters. Good God kid you are so clueless.

None of this has a thing to do with what you claim. Usyk beating Tyson Fury proves nothing. Fury isn't a huge guy for heavyweight standards since there have been tons of guys bigger since the 1990s or even before.