Oleksandr Usyk is the greatest fighter since…

[Simurgh]

Usyk beats Holyfield IMO (especially if Holyfield is not on anything). I don’t see many clear favourites against Usyk at HW; at CW or any past HW <230lbs, there are none. Also bear in mind Usyk’s best is likely not at HW. If he started at HW, it would be a much fairer comparison.

[LG Motel 22]

Lol because Joshua and Fury aren't anything special and they will never be special. So Usyk beating 2 hype jobs doesn't equate to Usyk being a good fighter

hypejobs ? Man both fighters had really good runs at heavyweight and usyk made them look average, doesn’t mean they are average fighters. Swear some of you think there are only 5 decent fighters in the sport today.

[shawnkemp804]

Im pretty sure lewis was ko'd twice in his prime

If a fight of them two got made today with the usyk from the second joshua fight when he really fit into his heavyweight frame was made then if youre really an honest boxing fan you should be able to see a way for either man to win

Holyfield had a lot of success vs lennox and usyk is way smarter at getting in and out and has supreme straight body work

You arent giving usyk much credit he belongs on the heavyweight atg list

Lewis was KO'd twice by guys who always weighed 230 pounds. Lewis was never KO's by a guy who weighed 175 pounds into his 20's like Usyk. Lol Joshua isn't nearly as good as Lennox Lewis was so Usyk beating Joshua doesn't mean jack squat and Andy Ruiz destroyed Joshua first.

Evander Holyfield was way better than Usyk. Again Usyk barely beat Chisora. Usyk beating a junky version of Tyson Fury who isn't good to begin with doesn't make Usyk a ATG. Holyfield beating a in shape Rid**** Bowe and a prime Ray Mercer is more impressive than Usky beating freaking Chisora or him beating a damaged Joshua. Hell Holyfield beating a old Larry Holmes and old George Foreman is more impressive than anything Usyk has done.

Like I said something is severely wrong with you and I will just assume your mom was a crack head while she was pregnant with you. Like I typed you are clearly one of the dumbest people who post on this forum and that is saying a slot

[IronDanHamza]

Lol you aren't agreeing with me and you don't need too. I asked you a simple question and like I said you can't answer it. Who did Usyk beat to be considered good enough to hang with any top heavyweight from the 1970's up until Lennox Lewis retired? Usyk barely beat a shop worn Derek Chisora but he could hang with Mike Tyson and Bowe? Lol Usyk couldn't even beat guys like Bruce Seldon for crying out loud. Usyk isn't good. He is just lucky to be in such a bad era.

Mate shut the fuck up. I was literally agreeing with your basic premise you soft cunt.

Now you’re just talking nonsense if you think Usyk couldn’t beat Bruce Seldon.

Unless you are saying Seldon could beat AJ and Fury?

[Stuntman Mike]

Lewis was KO'd twice by guys who always weighed 230 pounds. Lewis was never KO's by a guy who weighed 175 pounds into his 20's like Usyk. Lol Joshua isn't nearly as good as Lennox Lewis was so Usyk beating Joshua doesn't mean jack squat and Andy Ruiz destroyed Joshua first.

Evander Holyfield was way better than Usyk. Again Usyk barely beat Chisora. Usyk beating a junky version of Tyson Fury who isn't good to begin with doesn't make Usyk a ATG. Holyfield beating a in shape Rid**** Bowe and a prime Ray Mercer is more impressive than Usky beating freaking Chisora or him beating a damaged Joshua. Hell Holyfield beating a old Larry Holmes and old George Foreman is more impressive than anything Usyk has done.

Like I said something is severely wrong with you and I will just assume your mom was a crack head while she was pregnant with you. Like I typed you are clearly one of the dumbest people who post on this forum and that is saying a slot

Anger leads to hate,hate leads to suffering

[Mammoth]

Ranking fighters all time is all about opinions. Literally the point of thread…

Floyd has more HOF’ers. Usyk has more Undisputed Championships, something Floyd never achieved, an Olympic Gold medal, something Floyd never achieved. 10 wins on the road, Floyd has 0. Fought in 8 different countries, Floyd fought in 1. He has conceded size advantages Floyd wouldn’t have dreamed of.

You can’t just limit the conversation to just HOF’ers defeated that’s only one element of greatness. The things I’d add for Floyd are longevity, more fights, more world title fights and more lineal championships with 4 compared to 2.

It's a pretty ridiculous apples and oranges thing to begin with. Should have left it at a simply best since conversation.

[Oracle01]

hypejobs ? Man both fighters had really good runs at heavyweight and usyk made them look average, doesn’t mean they are average fighters. Swear some of you think there are only 5 decent fighters in the sport today.

An obese mexican, Dubois and an mma fighter in his boxing debut maybe them look even more average.

[LG Motel 22]

An obese mexican, Dubois and an mma fighter in his boxing debut maybe them look even more average.

And usyk made Dubois quit..
You gonna bag Lennox for losing twice ? Ali for getting beat by Frazier who got flattened by big George, Manny for losing to Horn..
I dunno I feel people are just looking for excuses to belittle usyks achievements.

[shawnkemp804]

And usyk made Dubois quit..
You gonna bag Lennox for losing twice ? Ali for getting beat by Frazier who got flattened by big George, Manny for losing to Horn..
I dunno I feel people are just looking for excuses to belittle usyks achievements.

And then there are people like you who will do anything to inflate Usyk's "achievements". If Usyk is great because he beat Daniel Dubios then Joe Joyce is a great fighter since he beat Dubois first. If Usyk is great because he beat Anthony Joshua then Andy Ruiz is even greater for beating Joshua first. Nobody considered Ruiz or Joyce to be ATG. Then how is Usyk beating Fury anything special? Beating a druggy who best win came 10 years ago against a 40 year old Wlad is suppose to be special?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It's a pretty ridiculous apples and oranges thing to begin with. Should have left it at a simply best since conversation.

I don’t know why you even commented in this thread tbh.