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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
Ranking fighters all time is all about opinions. Literally the point of thread…
Floyd has more HOF’ers. Usyk has more Undisputed Championships, something Floyd never achieved, an Olympic Gold medal, something Floyd never achieved. 10 wins on the road, Floyd has 0. Fought in 8 different countries, Floyd fought in 1. He has conceded size advantages Floyd wouldn’t have dreamed of.
You can’t just limit the conversation to just HOF’ers defeated that’s only one element of greatness. The things I’d add for Floyd are longevity, more fights, more world title fights and more lineal championships with 4 compared to 2.
Floyd has 7 P4P ranked fighters beaten, Usyk has I think 1.
Floyd has 4 Lineal titles, Usyk has two.
Usyk is a great fighter but I don’t think his resume compares to Floyd’s
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
I’m agreeing with you
I think he could hang, as in be amongst them. That’s my opinion based off styles and fantasy H2H match ups.
Do I think he could beat Lewis or Holyfield? No I don’t.
Tyson and Bowe? Probably not either, maybe.
It’s obviously not a stretch to say he has the ability to be amongst them though.
I thibk usyk could give anyone problems,he might not win against a prime lennox or ali but it would certainly be a fight and i could see usyk also winning those fights
Hes in the mix now for me to potentially beat any other the other greats just as i see a way for them to all potentially beat each other
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
I’m agreeing with you
I think he could hang, as in be amongst them. That’s my opinion based off styles and fantasy H2H match ups.
Do I think he could beat Lewis or Holyfield? No I don’t.
Tyson and Bowe? Probably not either, maybe.
It’s obviously not a stretch to say he has the ability to be amongst them though.
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Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
Im an old school guy i watch many fights daily and have more respect from retired than the current division but anyone would have fits with usyk
I thibk usyk could give anyone problems,he might not win against a prime lennox or ali but it would certainly be a fight and i could see usyk also winning those fights
Hes in the mix now for me to potentially beat any other the other greats just as i see a way for them to all potentially beat each other
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Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
The wins they have pale in comparison to Usyks ..however in terms of talent of course they are up there but they just dont have the scalps and crawford most certainly wont ever match usyks wins
I will say you are probably one of the dumbest posters here and that is saying something
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
I’m agreeing with you
I think he could hang, as in be amongst them. That’s my opinion based off styles and fantasy H2H match ups.
Do I think he could beat Lewis or Holyfield? No I don’t.
Tyson and Bowe? Probably not either, maybe.
It’s obviously not a stretch to say he has the ability to be amongst them though.
I’d pick Lewis to beat him. Bowe I think would be a
very tough fight for him too.
Tyson I always find difficult to match H2H because he was so fragile mentally. He could literally implode. I could see him just blitzing Usyk but I could also see Usyk weathering the storm and getting him late, very unsure on that one.
All fantasy, of course.
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Originally posted by LG Motel 22 View PostPac-Man. People are quick to denigrate those Joshua and Fury wins but man he beat them twice convincingly.
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Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post
Lol you aren't agreeing with me and you don't need too. I asked you a simple question and like I said you can't answer it. Who did Usyk beat to be considered good enough to hang with any top heavyweight from the 1970's up until Lennox Lewis retired? Usyk barely beat a shop worn Derek Chisora but he could hang with Mike Tyson and Bowe? Lol Usyk couldn't even beat guys like Bruce Seldon for crying out loud. Usyk isn't good. He is just lucky to be in such a bad era.
Stop trolling.
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Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post
You could see Usyk beating Lennox Lewis because you are mentally ******ed. Lol Usyk barely beat Chisora and beat a drugged out Tyson Fury who never did anything in his career besides beat old man Wlad and now you clowns act like Usyk is this legendary boxer. There is no sport fan dumber than boxing fans.
If a fight of them two got made today with the usyk from the second joshua fight when he really fit into his heavyweight frame was made then if youre really an honest boxing fan you should be able to see a way for either man to win
Holyfield had a lot of success vs lennox and usyk is way smarter at getting in and out and has supreme straight body work
You arent giving usyk much credit he belongs on the heavyweight atg list
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