Why do the largest HWs in history lose to relatively small HWs?

[them_apples]

I don't know, why I even bother... but ok, I'll play:

Usyk sucks, and wouldn't beat a single HW in the Hall of Fame??

How about Braddock? Or Corbett... just to name two? You honestly think, he would lose to those guys?

He’s not beating braddock or Corbett no way

[them_apples]

Wlad was in his 30s when Fury beat him, that is a FACT, so putting 40 to make it seem like Wlad was older shows up your case. Fury is completely finished now. Speed, agility, stamina, any punch resistance all gone. Prime Fury never lost and he was the only man to beat prime Wilder. Parker and Zhang beat a clone of Wilder, a poor one at that, that malfunctioned in the Zhang fight when it, yes, it, started facing the wrong way. The clone also had a malfunctioning right hand. A problem with the trigger mechanism.

Let's all raise a toast to Fury beating Wlad in his 30s!, Prime Wilder, Chisora X3, Prime Wallin, Prime Kevin Johnson, Whyte, Ngannou, and perhaps most impressively of all, Braun Strowman on his WWE debut. Viva la Fury. Nash out - His Majesty

Wilder doesn’t have a prime because he was always the same fighter. He swings and loads up and hopes you can’t hit hard enough to hurt him. I don’t know what the prime version of that looks like

[Nash out]

Wilder doesnât have a prime because he was always the same fighter. He swings and loads up and hopes you canât hit hard enough to hurt him. I donât know what the prime version of that looks like

He didn't do any of that vs Parker or Zhang. If you can't see that was a different man then I don't know what to tell you. Nash is still celebrating Fury's win vs 30-something Wlad. People always saying 40 to make themselves feel better. He was merely 39, aka, 30-something. Nash out - His Majesty

[Marchegiano]

He didn't do any of that vs Parker or Zhang. If you can't see that was a different man then I don't know what to tell you. Nash is still celebrating Fury's win vs 30-something Wlad. People always saying 40 to make themselves feel better. He was merely 39, aka, 30-something. Nash out - His Majesty

... Fire

[shawnkemp804]

Witherspoon was 37 and hadnt lost in the previous 7 years. Chirora's last fight was a win over no8 ranked Joyce.

Q.What evidence do you have that Fury was drug addicted when he lost to Usyk?

A.Absolutely none!

Lol the fact that you think a 37 year old boxer is in his prime pretty much sums up what kind of pretend boxing fan you are. Fury is a known drug addict, you think he jus got clean for the Usyk bout? Even if he was clean, Fury has done nothing with his boxing career besides beat a no talent Wilder and a 40 year old Wlad. Chisora was 36/37 when Usyk beat him. Chisora was never a top level fighter even in his prime. Usyk still barely beat a shop worn 36 year old fighter than David Haye destroyed years before.

But like I said sure, Usyk is the greatest heavyweight of all time to racist white guys who don't know boxing and 13 year old kids who believe everything they hear on TV.

[shawnkemp804]

I did say that. I said the USA heavies did not do as well as they did pre 2000. Why is this so? Think about it and get back to me. I gvae you a hint in post #15

Wrong Vitali tuned pro in late 1996 and won a belt long before Lewis retired in 2003.

Usyk is a ATG great and will end up in the boxing hall of fame. Lots of people recognize his greatness here. You are likey a racist and don't.

You mean racist white boys like you who don't know boxing recognize Usyks pretend greatness? Lol if you think Usyk beat Tyson Fury and Joshua makes him a ATG heavyweight then you are a brain dead fool. But hey every white guy who talks about boxing is a brain dead fool so this isn't shocking.

Also Vitali won his first belt by beating a 38 year old Corrie Sanders in 2004 so after Lennox Lewis retired. But why am I not shocked that a white boy doesn't know a thing about boxing.

[Marchegiano]

If you think Usyk is a top 100 ATG heavyweight then you have severe mental issues. The only people who hype this guy up are white dudes and I never talked to a white dude in my life who knew a damn thing about boxing. They only hype him up because he is white and they are white just like they continue to hype up Rocky Marciano.

Lol he beat the number 1 and number 2 fighter of this era twice? Which again shows you how bad this era is. Also before Deontay Wilder got beat by Parker and Zhang I could of sworn all of you said Wilder would beat Joshua. Lol but Usyk beating Joshua a fighter everybody here says is a overrated hype job after Andy Ruiz beat him first and then beating Tyson Fury a guy who did nothing with his career besides barely beat a 40 year old Wlad doesn't make you a ATG.

The dumb stuff that white people say on a routine basic just cracks me up. Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson is far more impressive than Usyk beating Joshua after Ruiz beat him and a druggy overweight Fury. I never heard anybody say Douglas is a ATG. Michael Moorer beating Holyfield is more impressive than anything Usyk has done. Moorer isn't a ATG.

This is why I can't take anything white dudes say about boxing as being serious.

Well **** man, ain't hardly no one here going to admit how fair that is and you ****ing know it


I would contend one thing on behalf of us honk-ass white boys who don't know **** about boxing. James Douglas is one of the most loved and unstoppable figures in all of white boy boxing fandom. You may have missed it because we don't call the unstoppable juggernaut of jabs "Buster" or even James when we refer to the symphony of mayhem that was his all time best performance. This man is called Tokyo Douglas and let me tell you something brother, ain't no white man worth his privilege would say anything other than Tokyo Douglas is an ATG.



I thought your perspective was interesting and fair, I hope you continue to post.

[Bronson66]

You mean racist white boys like you who don't know boxing recognize Usyks pretend greatness? Lol if you think Usyk beat Tyson Fury and Joshua makes him a ATG heavyweight then you are a brain dead fool. But hey every white guy who talks about boxing is a brain dead fool so this isn't shocking.

Also Vitali won his first belt by beating a 38 year old Corrie Sanders in 2004 so after Lennox Lewis retired. But why am I not shocked that a white boy doesn't know a thing about boxing.

Vitali won his first belt, the WBO title, by knocking out 26 years old Herbie Hide in1999,
NOW GO WIPE THAT EGG OFF YOUR ******,CONCEITED FACE!

[Nash out]

Well **** man, ain't hardly no one here going to admit how fair that is and you ****ing know it


I would contend one thing on behalf of us honk-ass white boys who don't know **** about boxing. James Douglas is one of the most loved and unstoppable figures in all of white boy boxing fandom. You may have missed it because we don't call the unstoppable juggernaut of jabs "Buster" or even James when we refer to the symphony of mayhem that was his all time best performance. This man is called Tokyo Douglas and let me tell you something brother, ain't no white man worth his privilege would say anything other than Tokyo Douglas is an ATG.



I thought your perspective was interesting and fair, I hope you continue to post.

Viva la Tokyo Douglas, 1 fight, 1 win, Mike Tyson's 0 against all the odds, and never to be seen again as he returned to James Buster Douglas. Tokyo Douglas was an animal, 1 night and out. The man left on a high. Nash out - His Majesty

[BKM-]

I concur with the Douglas fandom. Man was on fire that night. Pretty hilarious how he boxed Tyson silly the whole night, he would faint with perfect footwork luring the rapist in, by this point he already had him off balance after landing a double or even triple jab, and then he would usually land a hard right uppercut and follow up with hooks or a clinch to Stop Tyson's response.