Why do the largest HWs in history lose to relatively small HWs?

[them_apples]

If you think Usyk is a top 100 ATG heavyweight then you have severe mental issues. The only people who hype this guy up are white dudes and I never talked to a white dude in my life who knew a damn thing about boxing. They only hype him up because he is white and they are white just like they continue to hype up Rocky Marciano.

Lol he beat the number 1 and number 2 fighter of this era twice? Which again shows you how bad this era is. Also before Deontay Wilder got beat by Parker and Zhang I could of sworn all of you said Wilder would beat Joshua. Lol but Usyk beating Joshua a fighter everybody here says is a overrated hype job after Andy Ruiz beat him first and then beating Tyson Fury a guy who did nothing with his career besides barely beat a 40 year old Wlad doesn't make you a ATG.

The dumb stuff that white people say on a routine basic just cracks me up. Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson is far more impressive than Usyk beating Joshua after Ruiz beat him and a druggy overweight Fury. I never heard anybody say Douglas is a ATG. Michael Moorer beating Holyfield is more impressive than anything Usyk has done. Moorer isn't a ATG.

This is why I can't take anything white dudes say about boxing as being serious.

Marciano is great but Usyk sucks and I can tell you know a thing or 2 about boxing agree with everything accept the Marciano part. Marciano is a crazy good fighter

[BKM-]

Marciano is great but Usyk sucks and I can tell you know a thing or 2 about boxing agree with everything accept the Marciano part. Marciano is a crazy good fighter

Why would you concur with a low IQ race baiting imbecile who will discredit all of your hero's i.e. the lean small heavies in Dempsey, Tunney, Rocky etc.

[them_apples]

Why would you concur with a low IQ race baiting imbecile who will discredit all of your hero's i.e. the lean small heavies in Dempsey, Tunney, Rocky etc.

I don’t know haven’t seen his other posts

[Dr Z]

Lol you mean when black males don't care about boxing anymore? Even then Joshua, and Wilder were still champions recently. Wilder held the title for 5 years. Also before that blacks dominated the division for 50 years much to your chagrin.

Vitali and Wlad turned pro in the 90's and couldn't win the belt until Lewis retired. Lol if more Eastern Europeans would of turned pro before white boy nothing would of changed.

Usyk is so trash that he barely beats sloppy seconds. David Haye a black male destroyed Derek Chisora a black male first. Usyk barely beat the faded Chisora. Andy Ruiz a Mexican destroyed Joshua a black male. Usyk had to eek out a decision against the same Joshua. Usyk beat Dubois after Joyce broke his eye socked.

Usyk boxes in a era where nobody cares about boxing. Logan Paul a Youtuber gets higher PPV buys than Usyk does. Usyk fights in a era where nobody watches boxing. Like I said if Usyk was black the same racist white boys who praise him would be calling him racial slurs. So my point stands. Usyk is trash, him beating trash Tyson Fury and trash Joshua doesn't make him a ATG and the only people who think Usyk is great are racist white dudes like yourself.

I did say that. I said the USA heavies did not do as well as they did pre 2000. Why is this so? Think about it and get back to me. I gvae you a hint in post #15

Wrong Vitali tuned pro in late 1996 and won a belt long before Lewis retired in 2003.

Usyk is a ATG great and will end up in the boxing hall of fame. Lots of people recognize his greatness here. You are likey a racist and don't.

[them_apples]

I did say that. I said the USA heavies did not do as well as they did pre 2000. Why is this so? Think about it and get back to me. I gvae you a hint in post #15

Wrong Vitali tuned pro in late 1996 and won a belt long before Lewis retired in 2003.

Usyk is a ATG great and will end up in the boxing hall of fame. Lots of people recognize his greatness here. You are likey a racist and don't.

For his era he is great.

h2h he’s not beating anyone else in the hall of fame

[Bundana]

For his era he is great.

h2h heâs not beating anyone else in the hall of fame

I don't know, why I even bother... but ok, I'll play:

Usyk sucks, and wouldn't beat a single HW in the Hall of Fame??

How about Braddock? Or Corbett... just to name two? You honestly think, he would lose to those guys?

[Dr Z]

I don't know, why I even bother... but ok, I'll play:

Usyk sucks, and wouldn't beat a single HW in the Hall of Fame??

How about Braddock? Or Corbett... just to name two? You honestly think, he would lose to those guys?

Yeah, take a list of the HOF heavies. No doubt Usyk would beat several of them.

[Marchegiano]

It is getting out of hand, isn't it? I haven't been posting much over the holidays because all the threads just seem like pointless rehashes of battles that get the rinse and repeat treatment every few months.....and it's gotten far more personal than it should between a few really good posters I don't mind it when things get nasty when it's with forum detritus like Dr Z and Queenie, but that's another story

Yup, a dozen or so active threads all about the same thing.



I blatantly told fella I take no pleasure in proving him wrong.

I made this parody thread to try to highlight for him how silly it is for this nonsense to be a response

I've not been here over the weekend.

Still, about a dozen or so active threads all centered in some way about size disparity.



I dunno what else I can do to stop the section wide hissy fits. I don't just mean the current, just in general. I'd rather not be part of section wide hissy fits but if you disagree with the wrong member and make the terrible sin of actually making a point this is what tends to happen.



I'm all hears in regards to how I handled this poorly. If someone has a way of debating without causing the other person to spread that debate beyond the confines of the thread it started in, I will listen.

[Bronson66]

Yup, a dozen or so active threads all about the same thing.



I blatantly told fella I take no pleasure in proving him wrong.

I made this parody thread to try to highlight for him how silly it is for this nonsense to be a response

I've not been here over the weekend.

Still, about a dozen or so active threads all centered in some way about size disparity.



I dunno what else I can do to stop the section wide hissy fits. I don't just mean the current, just in general. I'd rather not be part of section wide hissy fits but if you disagree with the wrong member and make the terrible sin of actually making a point this is what tends to happen.



I'm all hears in regards to how I handled this poorly. If someone has a way of debating without causing the other person to spread that debate beyond the confines of the thread it started in, I will listen.

Speaking only for myself I have had no hissy fits and have no malice towards the posters who are defending smaller men.

[Nash out]

Lol in at trash era. Usyk beat a old Chazz Witherspoon, a old Derek Chisora who was never good and Usyk barely beat him. Usyk then got a title shot against Joshua who was just beat senseless 2 fights before by Andy Ruiz. Then Usyk beat Daniel Dubois after Joe Joyce broke his eye socket and Keven Lerena almost stopped him. Then Usyk beat a 36 year old overweight drug addicted Tyson Fury who did nothing with his career besides beat no talent Deontay Wilder and a 40 year old Wladimir Klitschko 11 years ago and barely beat him.

Yeah Usyk is the greatest heavyweight of all time to 13 year old kids and other casual boxing fans.

Wlad was in his 30s when Fury beat him, that is a FACT, so putting 40 to make it seem like Wlad was older shows up your case. Fury is completely finished now. Speed, agility, stamina, any punch resistance all gone. Prime Fury never lost and he was the only man to beat prime Wilder. Parker and Zhang beat a clone of Wilder, a poor one at that, that malfunctioned in the Zhang fight when it, yes, it, started facing the wrong way. The clone also had a malfunctioning right hand. A problem with the trigger mechanism.

Let's all raise a toast to Fury beating Wlad in his 30s!, Prime Wilder, Chisora X3, Prime Wallin, Prime Kevin Johnson, Whyte, Ngannou, and perhaps most impressively of all, Braun Strowman on his WWE debut. Viva la Fury. Nash out - His Majesty