Boxing and mental illness

[Ben Bolt]

I think it is fair to conclude thst most boxing fans are mentally ill.

Lol. Despite that the statement includes me as well, I have to agree.

[Biledriver]

I think it is fair to conclude thst most boxing fans are mentally ill.

Especially those that post in the Boxing Scene Lounge.....

[Biledriver]

Within the next century we should be able to provide this desperate breed with their own planet, moon or ice-teroid where they can exercise every grotesque form of freedom unperturbed by earth-squares.

From there, tranny-nauts will explore the farthest reaches of the solar system, teaching any aliens to cook Mexican food..

^^^^^ And this troll was searching for something to get him ignored and finally found it. I have 0 tolerance for bigotry, whether it's rac ism, miso gyny, or que erphobia. Circle the bowl, Captain Gigachud

[Mr Mitts]

^^^^^ And this troll was searching for something to get him ignored and finally found it. I have 0 tolerance for bigotry, whether it's rac ism, miso gyny, or que erphobia. Circle the bowl, Captain Gigachud

Son, if you had any manners you would hang yourself.

Scream now to use the same bathrooms, but I guarantee your ilk will later scream with the same frenzy for separate facilities. Just let anyone suggest you cannot have separate facilities and the new war is on for you suburban hobbyist protestors.

[QueensburyRules]

Yeah that last part troubles me as well. When Harvey Milk outed the guy (Oliver Sipple) who grabbed Sara Jane Moore's gun before she could aim. That guy fell apart, it ruined his life. Some activists can be quite evil (in a selfish way).

I disagree about the arbitrary use of 18 years of age (for many things) but also realize we really have no choice but to draw an arbitrary line somewhere.

I also don't believe that it should appear in elementary schools, that would be grooming.

But as a high school teacher I would argue that if there is going to be an identity problem it needs to be addressed during the high school years.

All that goes with it becomes evident (and self evident) in the teen years, and to force a silence on the issue until after high school is over, is going to cause trauma.

O' wonder.
How many goodly creatures are there here!

How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world,
That has such people in’t!

- - We managed just fine in my HS without any parental of school oversight. Don't recall any soft lads or hirsute girls getting shamed or beat up, but of course I went to a highly integrated HS both racially and religiously because I grew up in Houston.

We had the largest graduating class in Texas, 1000+, and guaranteed any fighting or verbal abuse was grounds for suspension or worse.

[Biledriver]

I taught in an inner city school with diversity.

When you have an aggrate that is made up of various m-inorities you don't have a bullying problem. We didn't. Everyone was a minority, including both the whites and American blacks.

M-inorities, being a minority, will quickly take a live and let live stand. It is only when you a have majoriterian culture that bulling occures.

After a school shooting we teachers used to say, sarcastically, "When our kids shoot to each other there is usually a gold chain involved, no need for a psychologist." We actually felt safer for that very real reason.

School shootings is a white problem, because bullying is a white problem.

When our kids became violent there was a tangible reason, not emotional ***********.

Even our gays and trans were left alone.

Yours is a refreshing perspective on a forum that's typically reminiscent of Sto rmfront more often than not.....

[Mr Mitts]

I taught in an inner city school with diversity.

When you have an aggrate that is made up of various m-inorities you don't have a bullying problem. We didn't. Everyone was a minority, including both the whites and American blacks.

M-inorities, being a minority, will quickly take a live and let live stand. It is only when you a have majoriterian culture that bulling occures.

After a school shooting we teachers used to say, sarcastically, "When our kids shoot to each other there is usually a gold chain involved, no need for a psychologist." We actually felt safer for that very real reason.

School shootings is a white problem, because bullying is a white problem.

When our kids became violent there was a tangible reason, not emotional ***********.

Even our gays and trans were left alone.

What I have marked in red could use a little amplification. Did whites do all the bullying in your old school?

[Willie Pep 229]

What I have marked in red could use a little amplification. Did whites do all the bullying in your old school?

We had no whites. Early on I did but a 'white flight' to central Florida in the late 1980s emptied Hialeah/Miami of its white population. By the end my classroom race ratio literally said 0% next to white.

But even then, early on, we were never a school with a majoriterian culture.

There was never one group that set any kind of cultural standard that others might be mocked for not measuring up to it. E.g. language spoken.

I repeat myself: Min-orities don't like to bully for fear of being bullied.

If you want to find bullying, visit a school where there is a majoriterian culture. White, black or brown. There you may find bullying.

But diversity actually works. Not because it makes them better people, just more respectful of one another out of necessity.

The bullying problem is mainly a White problem because that's the majoriterian culture you are most likely to encounter in a public school.

When the kids all speak the same language, dress like they all shop at the same store, watch the same movies, listen to the same music, Etc. That's when you find people being ostracized and the bullying begins.

[Bronson66]

Frank Maloney lewis's manager was a man who transitioned to a woman and I have read some articles on these people and the sheer hell they go through because they are born into the wrong body. Just thank your lucky stars that that hasn't been your misfortune as they really go though hell growing up and when they transition the pain is still there. My heart goes out to them.
But there are now celebrity kids all dressing in skirts and wearing make up claiming to be tran***ual. It is a fashionable fad like wearing flairs was in the late seventies, but even though it is a fad for teens to toy with androgyny it is still making light of the very serious pain that REAL trans men and women feel deep inside.
I think the breaks need to be put on this child exploitation so that transgener issues can be viewed with compassion rather then scorn.

I have a friend who comes over from Calgary,he is referred to as," Canadian Bob,",in our town , he is a big fella with tattoos,and was always thought of as,a beer drinking, football loving,"man's man".
Bob is married with a daughter ,a couple of years ago Bob transitioned and has now had the operation to remove his male genitalia,and create a semblance of a woman' s . Bob as he was once known, told me he went through hell for years, denying his true feelings.
I feel desperately sorry for such people ,trapped in the wrong body,and believe anyone has the right to be whom they want.
On the flip side I have an autistic Grandson 21 years old who now says he identifies as a woman,we all humour him, but as far as I am concerned , it is .
1.An attention seeking device.
2.A symptom indicating he does not like himself,which stems from his condition.

[max baer]

I have a friend who comes over from Calgary,he is referred to as," Canadian Bob,",in our town , he is a big fella with tattoos,and was always thought of as,a beer drinking, football loving,"man's man".
Bob is married with a daughter ,a couple of years ago Bob transitioned and has now had the operation to remove his male genitalia,and create a semblance of a woman' s . Bob as he was once known, told me he went through hell for years, denying his true feelings.
I feel desperately sorry for such people ,trapped in the wrong body,and believe anyone has the right to be whom they want.
On the flip side I have an autistic Grandson 21 years old who now says he identifies as a woman,we all humour him, but as far as I am concerned , it is .
1.An attention seeking device.
2.A symptom indicating he does not like himself,which stems from his condition.

you are spot on there bronson i reckon. It has become fashionable for teens to be trans.It is highly unlikely that it just so happens that all these celebrity teens are really trans and not just toying with androgyny . I was madly into bowie and stuff as a teen and I bleached my hair and looked silly but it was just growing up but at times I was abused violently in the street called aids g.a.y scum and threatened. There are a lot of nasty ignorant people in the world and so it must be so hard for real authentic g.a.y and trans men and women to just get on with their daily lives and I feel sorry for them for having to put up with such abuse from nasty strangers. I think teens toying with androgyny is very common and probably always has been. But i think teachers and social workers are not always doing the right thing by these kids and should just let them explore who they are and what they want to be along their youth.
They will be off on another fashion fad in a few years.
It is also like g*ys for pal1stine they think they are all kicking back at this big brutal brother govt that wants to destroy us all and they are all in it together fighting like underdogs like that rocky stallone fighting the big guys against the odds and it is romantic like braveheart but in reality these groups cannot coexist as they are diametrically opposed to each other and hold deep resentment towards one another. People like david ike beleive in all that silly stuff.



this is a good debate about transgender issues.

I don't think mental illness is a big issue in boxing in the main but a lot of men who rise up in the fight game come from very poor backgrounds (like they aren't middle class tennis players or rich businessmen golfers!) and often the case is that because they are so poor they have little self esteem and feel bad about themselves and turn to drugs and drink to bolster their esteem but end up in misunderstandings and disputes due to being drunk that lead to court cases etc. Me and fury both grew up poor and we helped each other out as we grew up as he, like me, had zero self worth and it drove us to suicidal actions.
so the fact that 99% of pro boxers come from poverty has an impact on their mental health that is my belief. Iron mike showed it to the whole planet how having success and lots of money is disaster when their self esteem and self worth are as low as it can be. Hence mike having such a life.
One thing I truly believe for men like me and fury and even mike is that if we can find a woman we can love and who nurtures us and shows us gentle kindness then we don't just up and decide to go on benders and get involved with nasty women. Me and fury both have a woman who has saved us and given us a happy purpose in life and both of our women are altruistic and compassionate and that is a way to avoid terrible mental health. I know many men will disagree but I think the best thing that exists on earth is to share our life with a partner whom you love. That conquers the terrible mental anguish that many men feel.
that's my two cents worth.