Greatest Fighter in the Nine New Weight Classes

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Its one of the reason I tend to like collegiate sports more than professional.

By the time you get to the top leagues (NFL, NBA, etc) the talent is so relatively ****genized that techniques and styles become the same. You start approaching a Nash Equilibrium of sort.

In some...

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First name that comes to mind is Wilder, save for when he first beat Stiverne and decided to stick and move for the night, he was basically:

-Have a deadly right hand
-Be taller and longer than my opponent
-Combine that length and deadly right hand
-Rinse and repeat...

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JCC is usually the name that is brought up as being one if thr best at going to the body. Dont know if that means he was the most brutal, or just his favorite form of attack.

Khaosai Galaxy was definitely a brutal body puncher, as his height and build would indicate.

Both Golovkin...

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The recent thread about the greatest in the original 8 got me thinking. I'll give mine

Cruiser- Holyfield (190) Usyk (200). I know its kind of a cheat, but so is changing the weight limit

Super Middle Weight - Roy Jones Jr

Super Welter Weight- Thomas Hearns (almost...

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Langford had more pro fights, but Johnson was older, and I feel had already grown into his heavyweight body. Langford weighed in as darn near a super welterweight for the fight, and was just over a year removed from fighting for the welterweight title.

This was not quite yet prime Langford...

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No I fully embrace using absurdity and exxageration, but done so only to find common ground.

The discussion had gotten to the point that some were claiming that size was not an advantage at all. I just did what I did so we could all agree that size could be an advantage; we just differ...

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I know had I picked Louis is would have been an easy decision, thats why I didnt.

Picking AJ allowed us to reach the conclusion that we all agree that size matters, we just differ on how much.

The Shaq Delahoya example is good to show that size alone doesnt win. Luckily, we...

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The argument that being bigger is an advantage in a boxing match. I imagine you would agree with that, and though I hate to have to do this I will take a page from the recent slew of posts citing fantasy fights of different weighted fighters.

Who would you pick to win a match between 2006...

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Heavyweight: Ali

Light Heavyweight: Langford

Middleweight: Monzon

Welterweight: Robinson

Lightweight: Duran

Featherweight: Pep

Bantamweight: Jofre

Flyweight: Wilde

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But as I wrote, Louis had a reach advantage over him.

I was responding to the statement of how 'Louis was going to catch tall opponents...' by pointing out the fighter most cited as being 'difficult to catch' was not taller or rangier than Louis. While the bigger fighters he fought were...

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But thats what I was writing in my initial post. He didn't need to put on any extra muscle to beat the opponents he faced. Conn is always cited as the example of a quick guy outboxing Louis, but Louis had more reach and range than Conn. There isn't really a tall opponent who was quick who he had to...

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Absolutely, with his height, reach and build he was probably the most he should be. But as I ranted on above, he was significantly smaller than most modern heavyweight champs....

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Its funny, my first thought on Louis was 'maybe it could help him be less chinny', although I've come around to the idea that Louis wasn't really as chinny as we think, rather he was just so concerned with getting himself in position to land punches he sacrificed defense, and in return got caught a...

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Are we under the assumption that they are just adding weight for the sake of adding weight? Are we also assuming that adding muscle slows them down (which isn't always true) and its just bulk for the sake of bulk? If so, then no one benefits.

If we assume adding muscle can add strength,...