So I watched a UFC fight for the very first time.... Absolutely horrendous

[Marchegiano]

No “yet” as in despite me telling him Hunt was not a top 10 fighter when Lesnar faced him he keeps stating that he was.

“I’ve explained that Hunt was not a top guy YET you keep saying he was” ..... I’m using yet as a conjunction not an adverb.

Sorry for the English lesson but hope that clears it up the confusion lol.

Oh I see, nah yer good. I'd be frustrated with me too.

[Lomadeaux]

The UFC puts out like double the amount of PPVs as boxing per year. And they average in the 300-400k range which is what stuff like Spence/Porter and Wilder/Fury 1 did. Jon Jones is good for 600-800k buys usually. Conor is all but guaranteed to break a million against just about anybody. Ronda, Brock and GSP could all push a million when they were around too. Floyd and Pac carried boxing PPV in the late 2000s through mid 2010s but even then the UFC was a more consistent PPV seller than boxing, it has been since like 06/07. And now Floyd is gone, Pacs drawing power is greatly diminished and Canelo is off traditional PPV.

Guys, you can disagree all you want.

Top Boxing PPV numbers and Live gates destroy MMA live gates. Always have.

It's not that MMA sucks it's just the meritocracy.

[Lomadeaux]

Except Mark freaking Hunt is nowhere near one of the best heavyweights. You guys don’t like UFC, that’s fair but please stop making up BS lies to make yourself feel better. UFC as an organisation is thriving and they do right by the consumer. I can get behind that.

Believe it or not, he's telling the truth. UFC/WWF typically have the same fan base and guys can jump back and forth and compete in both.

MMA will never have the type level interest that boxing has. It does well for certain people but it'll never surpass boxing... ever...

[TMLT87]

Guys, you can disagree all you want.

Top Boxing PPV numbers and Live gates destroy MMA live gates. Always have.

"Top boxing PPV numbers" = Floyd, who is essentially retired. Yes, he was an absolute monster draw but hes basically done. His last real boxing match was almost 5 years ago. His last big PPV number was vs an MMA fighter. With him out of the equation the biggest active draw in boxing is Canelo, who is a clear step down from Conor in drawing power, and he isnt even on traditional PPV anymore anyway.

[b Murphington]

It's an atrocious sport to watch if you value skills. Just awful.

Brock Leaner can go play rasslin for 11 months out of the year then come to the UFC and beat their best. That's how low skilled that sport is. He doesn't even train full time

I suspect you are trolling.

No sane person would seriously argue that MMA is “unskilled”

Look. I’m not a fan of MMA my any stretch of the imagination. I couldn’t name you 3 active fighters and their weight class. I’ll watch big events because I know some people who throw MMA parties, so I’ll attend to socialize and watch with others. But even I can see the sport is skilled.

As others have said, Brock was a decorated, skilled wrestler. Wrestling is HUGE in MMA. Wrestling is arguably the most important discipline you can have in MMA. Not only that, but Brock is a physical freak of nature. The dude is beyond strong. Just look at his physic. Just based on shear size and strength alone he can probably out muscle and beat most guys.

Not only that, but he was a known PED user. Who knows. He could’ve been juiced up in every UFC match he competed in.

Brock winning a championship the way he did isn’t all too far fetched.

[NaijaD]

Believe it or not, he's telling the truth. UFC/WWF typically have the same fan base and guys can jump back and forth and compete in both.

MMA will never have the type level interest that boxing has. It does well for certain people but it'll never surpass boxing... ever...

I don’t care if it surpasses boxing and as I said I am a boxing fan first, I’m not wishing for the sport to be replaced by MMA.

You need not feel threatened that UFC will erase boxing, it’s never happening. They are 2 different sports, you guys just need to stop embarrassing yourselves with all these hot takes about the UFC, it’s desperate and pathetic.

The reality is that UFC does right by the consumer and for that reason it’s popularity will continue to grow. The average UFC fan is way more pleased than the average boxing fan, they get the fights they want.

You can go ahead and tell me about how boxers earn more but I don’t watch combat sports to see who earns more or to see my favourite boxer knock over a no-hoper, I watch to be entertained and that comes with the best fighting the best, that’s what excites me about combat sports.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Brock Leaner can go play rasslin for 11 months out of the year then come to the UFC and beat their best. That's how low skilled that sport is. He doesn't even train full time

He had an extensive amateur wrestling background

Thai Boxers have become champions in Boxing. No authentic Muay Thai champion has become a UFC champion.

The second Boxers leave Boxing they fall apart.

No one takes Boxing seriously as a for of combat. SO whatever "skills"they may have, they're useless when rubber hits the road.

[buddyr]

Once the UFC's hypejobs (McGregor, Ronda, etc) where destroyed it got boring af. Only fights I care about are Khabib vs Tony Ferguson/Nate Diaz if El Cucuy fails & Jon Jones vs Stipe then I'm gone

There are no Tito Ortiz's, Chuck Liddell's, Spider Silva, etc in their primes in MMA anymore

Noooo. Lol. You guys obviously don’t watch mma. Real Fans of the sports always knew Rousey was a Hypejob. I love boxing more but MMA federations got it right with fewer weight classes, smaller gloves and ONE BELT PER DIVISION!!!!!! there is no ducking, “A-side vs B side “ bs and the best fight the best. This is sad because it’s hard for me to convince someone that boxing is better when you have multiple weight classes with 4(and sometimes 6)champs and 4 or 5 undefeated guys in the top 10 not fighting each other.

[ReggieKray]

Savage and barbaric activity where pretty much anything goes until the opponent taps out. Elbows, knees and headlocks galore.

Two grown men wrestling on the ground. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT SHYT!!!!!!!!

In boxing, you use only your fists. No elbows, knees or taking your opponent to the ground to bail you out. If you aren't skilled enough with your fists, it's going to be a LONG night. If you are hurt, the referee will give you an 8 count. He will ask you if are ok to continue. If you are not ok, he will stop it.

No comparison. Boxing is much more civilized and is the true gentlemen's sport.

I don't like MMA but I did buy Diaz vs McGregor 1 and getting to watch Coner McGregor get choked out was money well spent.

[Motorcity Cobra]

This shît is horrible!

MVP is so much fun to watch

— Roots of Combat (@RootsOfCombat)

This is chicken fighting. Any guy off the street has a better chance against an MMA guy than against a boxer