So I watched a UFC fight for the very first time.... Absolutely horrendous

[Motorcity Cobra]

The UFC roster includes BJJ, karate and judo black belts, division 1 level national and state wrestling champions, olympic medallists, ADCC champions and K-1 GP winners. Seems pretty skilled to me.

And yet a guy who plays rasslin full time can come in and beat a top 10 guy.

[NaijaD]

No way a guy who doesn't train full time should be able to beat anybody in the top 15. Idc what their background is. It's a low skilled sport. Might be entertaining to you but let's not act like it's anything other than what it really is

Lol low skilled sport??.... you have no idea what you’re talking about. Lesnar is a decorated college wrestler, he won by out wrestling Hunt who isn’t anywhere near as good in that department, you could argue Hunt isn’t great at all.

Like I said you don’t like the sport or have much respect for it and your opinion reflects that. Others who are more informed would thoroughly disagree that MMA is low skilled. They aren’t as good at throwing punches as boxers but that really doesn’t equate to the sport being low skilled. The reality is you can’t even use traditional boxing posture or stances in the octagon when you have to guard against kicks and takedowns but you probably haven’t factored that in.

[TMLT87]

And yet a guy who plays rasslin full time can come in and beat a top 10 guy.

Yeah, a juiced to the gills former division 1 level national champion wrestler, ex-UFC champ and freak athlete, going up against a 40+ year old who was one of the easiest opponents he could have faced at that time stylistically.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Lol low skilled sport??.... you have no idea what you’re talking about. Lesnar is a decorated college wrestler, he won by out wrestling Hunt who isn’t anywhere near as good in that department, you could argue Hunt isn’t great at all.

Listen to yourself. A guy who was good in college can come back 20 years later and beat a top 10 guy and he doesn't even train full time. UFC is his hobby!!!

[Motorcity Cobra]

Yeah, a juiced to the gills former division 1 level national champion wrestler, ex-UFC champ and freak athlete, going up against a 40+ year old who was one of the easiest opponents he could have faced at that time stylistically.

No guy that was a decorated amatuer is going to come into boxing and beat Luis Ortiz.

[Motorcity Cobra]

This shît is horrible!

MVP is so much fun to watch

— Roots of Combat (@RootsOfCombat)

[TMLT87]

No guy that was a decorated amatuer is going to come into boxing and beat Luis Ortiz.

Main reason you wont see that is most people spend years padding their record before they fight top 10 level guys.

Brock wasnt just a decorated amateur, he was literally the ex-champ. Its basically the equivalent of an ex boxing champion going away for 4 years then coming back and beating an also ran top 10 level guy who he matches up well with stylistically. Its hardly as damning as you're making it out to be.


Anyway, Joe Joyce was trying to get a fight with Ortiz for a while and hes only been pro for 2 years. Wouldnt rule him out at all in that fight either. Hes already beaten Stiverne (literally Wilders second best win) and Jennings who were both ranked top 10 not all that long ago.

This shît is horrible!

MVP is so much fun to watch

— Roots of Combat (@RootsOfCombat)

Whats wrong with that? MVP is a high level karate guy and an absolute sniper with his shots. Would you still think it was horrible if you saw him spark out world class boxers? because thats what would happen most of the time under kickboxing or muay thai rules.

[NaijaD]

Listen to yourself. A guy who was good in college can come back 20 years later and beat a top 10 guy and he doesn't even train full time. UFC is his hobby!!!

What do you mean 20 years later?? So he had a 20 year break between his UFC fights??And we already established Hunt was not a top 10 guy yet you keep repeating that you absolute child.

[Marchegiano]

What do you mean 20 years later?? So he had a 20 year break between his UFC fights??And we already established Hunt was not a top 10 guy yet you keep repeating that you absolute child.

Yet? If not yet then when? Did you mean anymore? He was a killer in Pride. Atomic Butt drop!

[NaijaD]

Yet? If not yet then when? Did you mean anymore? He was a killer in Pride. Atomic Butt drop!

No “yet” as in despite me telling him Hunt was not a top 10 fighter when Lesnar faced him he keeps stating that he was.

“I’ve explained that Hunt was not a top guy YET you keep saying he was” ..... I’m using yet as a conjunction not an adverb.

Sorry for the English lesson but hope that clears it up the confusion lol.