Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: I'm a Hall of Famer Right Now - I'm a King

[The Big Dunn]

Wilder was offered 12.5 million and then counter acted with a fake 50 million offer that Aj said would split down the middle way back in spring of 2018 if the fight was 100 million. This fake counter offer was schemed by Finkel to avoid the fight.

Wilder was on record saying several times he wouldn't fight AJ for any amount and said no fight with AJ in 2018 so more lies on your part,do you ever get tired of it ? ha

I don't believe that counter was fake at all. Either way I don't bring it up much because it the fact is Hearn was going to launch dazn and wasn't going to make AJ/Wilder when he claimed he was going to.

He didn't just say them in a vacuum dude. Some things happened before that led to this.

[The Big Dunn]

So you basically admitted Wilder avoided the immediate rematch even though he wasn't tied to Showtime or any network at that time becasue of all things money ? But money isn't everything remember that one ?Ha

On top of this you want us to believe fury is ducking though you just claimed it was because of Wilders money being effected in the U.K time zone ? Come 'on is right ,you want posters to take you serious but talk nonsense and put walls in front of fights by shifting blame.

Wilder didn't avoid the rematch, Fury did. There isn't even any debate about this except from Brits who somehow want Fury to be forgiven or excused. Even worse, he managed to fight 2 guys worse than Wilder, which is very hard to find at HWT.

I didn't post Fury was ducking. I posted he ran away from the rematch and signed with TR. That is a fact that you can't make go away. I then posted that having the rematch in England hurts the US revenue because of the time difference.

England is the b side. It doesn't matter what time the fight airs in England, only that it is in prime time here in the US. Fury can ask for the fight to be anywhere in England and he will be told no. It will be in the US in either Vegas or NYC to accommodate US viewers.

There is no way you can absolve Fury for his actions relative to the Wilder/Fury rematch. All we can do is hope he doesn't pull another run job before February 22, 2020.

[REDEEMER]

Wilder didn't avoid the rematch, Fury did. There isn't even any debate about this except from Brits who somehow want Fury to be forgiven or excused. Even worse, he managed to fight 2 guys worse than Wilder, which is very hard to find at HWT.

I didn't post Fury was ducking. I posted he ran away from the rematch and signed with TR. That is a fact that you can't make go away. I then posted that having the rematch in England hurts the US revenue because of the time difference.

England is the b side. It doesn't matter what time the fight airs in England, only that it is in prime time here in the US. Fury can ask for the fight to be anywhere in England and he will be told no. It will be in the US in either Vegas or NYC to accommodate US viewers.

There is no way you can absolve Fury for his actions relative to the Wilder/Fury rematch. All we can do is hope he doesn't pull another run job before February 22, 2020.

No he didn't ,he gave wilder 2 venues in which over a month passed until team Wilder said we are ready to make a deal this was on Jan.16th way after Furys initial choices for the rematch.

You also claimed Fox is bigger then ESPN ? Why did it lose UFC to them ? Come'on everyone knows ESPN is the biggest sports leader here.

Furys not going to accept a N.Y fight he would be foolish to do that ,it will be a Bob Arum promotion that is a fact now ,hes only accepting a U.S fight because he is now with Arum on ESPN network,theres no chance fury will fight on showtime or Fox over ESPN deal invested in him . Like I said Ortiz fight will only weaken any network paying out a wilder PPV .

Make all the Dazn excuses you can think of but at the end of the day we all know Wilder dipped out on overall 120 million deal for far lesser ones. Prize fighting has a meaning you know ?

[SN!PER]

Long Live The King

[REDEEMER]

I don't believe that counter was fake at all. Either way I don't bring it up much because it the fact is Hearn was going to launch dazn and wasn't going to make AJ/Wilder when he claimed he was going to.

He didn't just say them in a vacuum dude. Some things happened before that led to this.

A 24 hour time stamp with refusal of meetings cancelled sounds real to you ? Ha

It wouldn't matter where it took place ,Finkel had accepted terms of 15 million ,so when 12.5 was countered Dazn was not involved, STOP lying.

[The Big Dunn]

No he didn't ,he gave wilder 2 venues in which over a month passed until team Wilder said we are ready to make a deal this was on Jan.16th way after Furys initial choices for the rematch.

You also claimed Fox is bigger then ESPN ? Why did it lose UFC to them ? Come'on everyone knows ESPN is the biggest sports leader here.

Furys not going to accept a N.Y fight he would be foolish to do that ,it will be a Bob Arum promotion that is a fact now ,hes only accepting a U.S fight because he is now with Arum on ESPN network,theres no chance fury will fight on showtime or Fox over ESPN deal invested in him . Like I said Ortiz fight will only weaken any network paying out a wilder PPV .

Make all the Dazn excuses you can think of but at the end of the day we all know Wilder dipped out on overall 120 million deal for far lesser ones. Prize fighting has a meaning you know ?

Fox let UFC go to acquire WWE Smackdown. Fox is a bigger network than ESPN for sure.

Redeemer, Fury has sold next to nothing his last 2 fights. Fury sold just 3,577 actual tickets for his bout with wallin. Arum isn't going to run any promotion. He will definitely be a part of it but please lets not pretend Fury is a top seller here in the US.

Again not making any excuses. Just telling you straight-Haymon wasn't going to help DAZN boost sales so he refused to let wilder sign with dazn. wilder said ok. If he loses money, its on him. He believed Haymon could do for him what he did for Floyd so he stayed.

[kafkod]

Dude he stayed loyal to Haymon, not Espinoza. SHO didn't bid on his fight, ok Fox did. The next fight is on PPV. Hopefully it sells well.

You guys are just upset that Haymon competes against DAZN. A little competition shouldn't bother you.

If Haymon actually did compete with DAZN, eg, by trying to beat the offers they made to AJ and Wilder with a better counter offer of his own, or by sending good offers to the likes of GGG, Canelo, BJS, to fight Charlo on a PBC show, then nobody would have anything to complain about. But all Haymon ever does is block, block, block, and prevent fights from happening.

[The Big Dunn]

If Haymon actually did compete with DAZN, eg, by trying to beat the offers they made to AJ and Wilder with a better counter offer of his own, or by sending good offers to the likes of GGG, Canelo, BJS, to fight Charlo on a PBC show, then nobody would have anything to complain about. But all Haymon ever does is block, block, block, and prevent fights from happening.

Those fighters have exclusive deals with DAZN. You know he can't get them to fight off of dazn.

He does the same thing his competitors do, you guys only express anger when he does it.

[joe strong]

Yes I just don't see anybody but Fury beating wilder

Even before AJ lost to Ruiz i said Fury was the best HW. I think he could beat Wilder but I also think Wilder could beat Fury too.

[kafkod]

Wilder didn't avoid the rematch, Fury did. There isn't even any debate about this except from Brits who somehow want Fury to be forgiven or excused. Even worse, he managed to fight 2 guys worse than Wilder, which is very hard to find at HWT.

I didn't post Fury was ducking. I posted he ran away from the rematch and signed with TR. That is a fact that you can't make go away. I then posted that having the rematch in England hurts the US revenue because of the time difference.

England is the b side. It doesn't matter what time the fight airs in England, only that it is in prime time here in the US. Fury can ask for the fight to be anywhere in England and he will be told no. It will be in the US in either Vegas or NYC to accommodate US viewers.

There is no way you can absolve Fury for his actions relative to the Wilder/Fury rematch. All we can do is hope he doesn't pull another run job before February 22, 2020.

Unbelievable hypocrisy!

On the subject of Wilder turning down offers to fight AJ, you just said, "I defend any athlete's right to turn down a deal".

But when it comes to Fury turning down an immediate rematch with Wilder on PBC .... because he got a better deal for the same fight from Arum, you change your tune completely!

Fury is "running away" Brits want him to be forgiven or excused, but there's no way you can absolve him for his actions, blah blah ..

Fury has already signed for the rematch. If anybody runs away it's going to be Wilder, not Fury. And when that happens, I have no doubt that you and the other Haymon fanboys will have a million and one excuses lined up for him.