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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    No, Fury ran away during negotiations for the 2nd fight. Just call it straight and don't justify it. I had Fury winning but he didn't win the fight, it was a draw.

    Nothing I posted was a lie. Brits were talking about the rematch and then justified Fury running away to sign with TR.

    Wilder asked for immediate rematch days later,Fury picked old Trafford or Aresenal stadium, guess what happened after that ? Wilder started saying hes not sure the Fury rematch happens right away suggesting Fury didnt want it. Over a month passed ,only did fury sign with top Rank after team Wilder manipulated the media and said the rematch was heading to Barclays center on January 28th . Fury did not sign with Top Rank until Feb. 18th.



    Wilder was asking Fury to step aside for a Ruiz fight so no, you are claiming more nonsense here .Not up until the cut vs Wallin did Wilder get brave again and ask that a less lucrative Fury fight he will get anyway because AJ will win and Wilder will run away again, and you will defend that ,you are a wilder fan.

    You cant say someone won but then ran from a rematch and use a draw as your reasoning ? Wilder cult memebers like you can do it ,but the rest of the real boxing fans have to call it down the line so ?

    You then claimed Wilder wont go to Dazn because of business competiton when the Fury rematch will be on ESPN who is a bigger app in the states and directly competes with Showtime ?



    Again keep defending those lies.
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-03-2019, 12:10 PM.

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      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      Regarding the quote-, he was negotiating the Fury rematch when Fury signed with TR.

      AJ and Hearn lied about wilder being next when Hearn launched dazn. They didn't want a US PPV to open dazn. The plan all along was Povetkin. That is a fact. As fro the $50 mil offer, when have I been a poster that mentions that often?

      Haymon isn't letting Wilder fight on DAZN because he is trying to compete against dazn.
      That's a lie. Fury didn't sign with TR until the next month,they were not involved with Fury who answered Wilders request and gave him 2 U.K venues that were ignored and complied with a Barclays center fight a month later ? a fake report thrown out there by team Wilder to complicate the rematch which directly caused the ESPN to take place.

      Haymon isn't letting wilder fight on Dazn but will let him fight on ESPn the bigger U.S competitor ?

      Keep defending the lies ,your sinking fast.

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        Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
        Wilder asked for immediate rematch days later,Fury picked old Trafford or Aresenal stadium, guess what happened after that ? Wilder started saying hes not sure the Fury rematch happens right away suggesting Fury didnt want it. Over a month passed ,only did fury sign with top Rank after team Wilder manipulated the media and said the rematch was heading to Barclays center on January 28th . Fury did not sign with Top Rank until Feb. 18th.



        Wilder was asking Fury to step aside for a Ruiz fight so no, you are claiming more nonsense here .Not up until the cut vs Wallin did Wilder get brave again and ask that a less lucrative Fury fight he will get anyway because AJ will win and Wilder will run away again, and you will defend that ,you are a wilder fan.

        You cant say someone won but then ran from a rematch and use a draw as your reasoning ? Wilder cult memebers like you can do it ,but the rest of the real boxing fans have to call it down the line so ?

        You then claimed Wilder wont go to Dazn because of business competiton when the Fury rematch will be on ESPN who is a bigger app in the states and directly competes with Showtime ?



        Again keep defending those lies.
        You are a Brit that is justifying Fury running away from the fight. Yet you get mad if someone justifies Wilder not fighting AJ. You can't have it both ways.

        Actually, I am not a wilder fan and everyone knows this. I am rooting for him over Fury and AJ because he is American.

        Wilder doesn't have to sign with ESPN to fight Fury. The fight might be broadcast on Fox PPV and ESPN PPV as a split PPV. That is different than signing with DAZN and having the fight exclusively on DAZN. You have to know this.

        Look dude I get that Fury running away to fight 2 European bums and AJ losing to Ruiz (along with whyte's PED positive) have made the British HWT division a joke right now so you guys are a little sensitive. Your greatest fear is a Wilder/Ruiz PPV for the unified HWT title. I sense that you and other Brits realize this very well could happen.

        Then you could enjoy Fury/AJ bout for the BBC-Big British Cuck-HWT title in O2 arena. LMFAO!!

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          Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
          That's a lie. Fury didn't sign with TR until the next month,they were not involved with Fury who answered Wilders request and gave him 2 U.K venues that were ignored and complied with a Barclays center fight a month later ? a fake report thrown out there by team Wilder to complicate the rematch which directly caused the ESPN to take place.

          Haymon isn't letting wilder fight on Dazn but will let him fight on ESPn the bigger U.S competitor ?

          Keep defending the lies ,your sinking fast.
          so now its fake media reports that caused Fury to run away. Damn dude you will blame Fury running away on everything but Fury.

          There is nothing indicating wilder/fury 2 would be on ESPN. Nothing. Stop making stuff up.

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            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            so now its fake media reports that caused Fury to run away. Damn dude you will blame Fury running away on everything but Fury.

            There is nothing indicating wilder/fury 2 would be on ESPN. Nothing. Stop making stuff up.
            Fury never agreed to a Barclays fight,yes that's fake. wilder did agree to a U.K fight though ,but according to the cultists a draw negates that ?


            If ESPN wins purse bids Wilder has no choice to fight on it,you are just twisting things as usual. ESPN is bigger then showtime ,wilder couldn't get a PPV without Fury and the Ortiz one wont do well which will put ESPN ina stronger position . Showtime signed wilder and didn't even want the PPV for his next fight.

            Only posters who make stuff up is your crazy demented fan base and create excuses beyond belief to justify why fights don't happen.

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              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              You are a Brit that is justifying Fury running away from the fight. Yet you get mad if someone justifies Wilder not fighting AJ. You can't have it both ways.

              Actually, I am not a wilder fan and everyone knows this. I am rooting for him over Fury and AJ because he is American.

              Wilder doesn't have to sign with ESPN to fight Fury. The fight might be broadcast on Fox PPV and ESPN PPV as a split PPV. That is different than signing with DAZN and having the fight exclusively on DAZN. You have to know this.

              Look dude I get that Fury running away to fight 2 European bums and AJ losing to Ruiz (along with whyte's PED positive) have made the British HWT division a joke right now so you guys are a little sensitive. Your greatest fear is a Wilder/Ruiz PPV for the unified HWT title. I sense that you and other Brits realize this very well could happen.

              Then you could enjoy Fury/AJ bout for the BBC-Big British Cuck-HWT title in O2 arena. LMFAO!!
              Another crackpot of a post directed toward someone who lives in OH in U.S telling him 100 million isn't enough to make a fight possible that everyone wanted to see ? Ha

              Fury and AJ fight is possible ,it takes two fighters who want to fight, this excludes Wilder.

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                Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                Another crackpot of a post directed toward someone who lives in OH in U.S telling him 100 million isn't enough to make a fight possible that everyone wanted to see ? Ha

                Fury and AJ fight is possible ,it takes two fighters who want to fight, this excludes Wilder.
                I never posted anything like that. I did defend any athletes right to turn a deal down. I also made clear Haymon stopped wilder from fighting on DAZN and that wasn't in Wilder's best interest but in the best interest of PBC. I don't know what else to post.

                I understand you are mad but you should've been mad when AJ/Hearn lied to you when they said Wilder was next when it was clear hearn wanted to launch dazn with a non us ppv. Maybe you were and I just missed it.

                It does take 2 fighters that want to fight. You just only seem to pay attention when Wilder or Haymon doesn't want to fight but play Helen Keller when the Brits don't want to fight.

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                  Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                  Fury never agreed to a Barclays fight,yes that's fake. wilder did agree to a U.K fight though ,but according to the cultists a draw negates that ?


                  If ESPN wins purse bids Wilder has no choice to fight on it,you are just twisting things as usual. ESPN is bigger then showtime ,wilder couldn't get a PPV without Fury and the Ortiz one wont do well which will put ESPN ina stronger position . Showtime signed wilder and didn't even want the PPV for his next fight.

                  Only posters who make stuff up is your crazy demented fan base and create excuses beyond belief to justify why fights don't happen.
                  I don't think its that simple. The fight was great and profitable. Having the rematch in England makes it difficult to air in prime time in the US , thus hurting the revenue. That is why the powers that be wanted the rematch in the US. That may be unfair to you as a Brit but it makes financial sense.

                  ESPN hasn't won the bid yet dude so you are being extremely premature. Also, as I posted before, they could opt to do a split PPV. ESPN is bigger than SHO, but not bigger than Fox, who could outbid ESPN. At least wait to see what happens before prematurely taking the position that wilder will be on ESPN. Nostradamus is French, not British.

                  Dude explaining why a fight didn't happen isn't making up excuses. I know all of you can't go to Oxford or Cambridge but that shouldn't prevent us from having an adult discussion about the situation. Instead, a bunch of you want to scream "duck" and then turn around and justify Fury's move. Come on.

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                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    I never posted anything like that. I did defend any athletes right to turn a deal down. I also made clear Haymon stopped wilder from fighting on DAZN and that wasn't in Wilder's best interest but in the best interest of PBC. I don't know what else to post.

                    I understand you are mad but you should've been mad when AJ/Hearn lied to you when they said Wilder was next when it was clear hearn wanted to launch dazn with a non us ppv. Maybe you were and I just missed it.

                    It does take 2 fighters that want to fight. You just only seem to pay attention when Wilder or Haymon doesn't want to fight but play Helen Keller when the Brits don't want to fight.
                    Wilder was offered 12.5 million and then counter acted with a fake 50 million offer that Aj said would split down the middle way back in spring of 2018 if the fight was 100 million. This fake counter offer was schemed by Finkel to avoid the fight.

                    Wilder was on record saying several times he wouldn't fight AJ for any amount and said no fight with AJ in 2018 so more lies on your part,do you ever get tired of it ? ha

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                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      I don't think its that simple. The fight was great and profitable. Having the rematch in England makes it difficult to air in prime time in the US , thus hurting the revenue. That is why the powers that be wanted the rematch in the US. That may be unfair to you as a Brit but it makes financial sense.

                      ESPN hasn't won the bid yet dude so you are being extremely premature. Also, as I posted before, they could opt to do a split PPV. ESPN is bigger than SHO, but not bigger than Fox, who could outbid ESPN. At least wait to see what happens before prematurely taking the position that wilder will be on ESPN. Nostradamus is French, not British.

                      Dude explaining why a fight didn't happen isn't making up excuses. I know all of you can't go to Oxford or Cambridge but that shouldn't prevent us from having an adult discussion about the situation. Instead, a bunch of you want to scream "duck" and then turn around and justify Fury's move. Come on.
                      So you basically admitted Wilder avoided the immediate rematch even though he wasn't tied to Showtime or any network at that time becasue of all things money ? But money isn't everything remember that one ?Ha

                      On top of this you want us to believe fury is ducking though you just claimed it was because of Wilders money being effected in the U.K time zone ? Come 'on is right ,you want posters to take you serious but talk nonsense and put walls in front of fights by shifting blame.

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