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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostAnd nobody will be able to deny that fact if the Cotto/Canelo winner is stripped because they refuse to fight Golovkin without a catchweight..... meaning that Golovkin will have walked away from a HUGE payday to fight some bum for a vacant title.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostThis idiot again. 153?! Cotto never demanded 153, nor should he, for the MW belt, **** for brains.
If Ward can't make 164, then he should stop chasing an unproven MW and go fight someone his size. And not a journeyman, for a change
He insisted upon a (as yet undetermined) catchweight, and GGG refused.
It is what it is.
Originally posted by HeroBando View PostIf Ward can't make 164, then he should stop chasing an unproven MW and go fight someone his size. And not a journeyman, for a change
Stop making excuses for your loud-mouth girlfriend.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostSo you want The MW champ to duck him cause he might not entertain a CW, and you're quoting yourself saying GGG is protected? Lololol what an idiot
I stated that Cotto insisted upon a catchweight.
1) I did not state my " wishes "
2) My " wishes " have no bearing on Miguel Cotto's decisions, unlike yours do on Golovkins
If Golovkin will not give actual A-side fighters their due, despite using that ridiculous excuse himself..... then his resume will have to stand at face value, and his legacy will be judged accordingly.
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostWho stated that he did ?
He insisted upon a (as yet undetermined) catchweight, and GGG refused.
It is what it is.
And if Golovkin needs a catchweight he should stop talking shht.
Stop making excuses for your loud-mouth girlfriend.
GGG is not The SMW Champ. Cotto OTOH is ranked above GGG in every decent ranking at MW.
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostNo he is not, they flatly refused a catchweight for 153lb Cotto.
Stop protecting your current girlfriend.
1) Ward knows Golovkin was willing to fight Froch/Chavez at 168
2) Ward cannot make 164
3) Golovkin knows that Ward cannot make 164, but he doesn't care
4) HeroBando knows that Ward cannot make 164, but he doesn't care
Who protects Golovkin while you sleep ?
First point, Herobando was talking about Floyd, not Cotto. He was pointing out that GGG said he would move down to 154 for Floyd.
Second point. GGG's team have stated specifically, several times, that he would only move up to 168 for a ppv fight.
GGG/Ward would not be a ppv fight. HBO have already made that clear. If GGG can unify the MW division, it would become a ppv fight, but no way could Ward expect a 50/50 split under those circumstances. 60/40 would be more than generous, imo.
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostGrow up, small child.
I stated that Cotto insisted upon a catchweight.
1) I did not state my " wishes "
2) My " wishes " have no bearing on Miguel Cotto's decisions, unlike yours do on Golovkins
If Golovkin will not give actual A-side fighters their due, despite using that ridiculous excuse himself..... then his resume will have to stand at face value, and his legacy will be judged accordingly.
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostGolovkin said the exact same thing.
They flatly refused to give the Cotto/Canelo winner a catchweight.
And this is despite Canelo weighing 155 and Cotto weighing 153.
Golovkin demands a catchweight from Ward - despite being willing to fight Froch/Chavez at 168 - and he justified that demand by stating that he is the A-side..... then he totally refused to give Cotto/Canelo a catchweight, DESPITE them being the A-side.
During negotiation, it seems to be Golovkins way or the highway.
If you accept that, then you MUST accept his resume at face value.
It is impossible to make excuses for Golovkins resume if you accept and condone those ridiculous negotiating methods.
Golovkin really does appear to be a manufactured fighter.
when golovkin asks for a catchweight from someone in the SAME DIVISION he is the lineal champion in, THEN you would have a point.......
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostNo, but if that is how a fighter chooses his opponents..... then you should take his resume at face value, and stop making excuses for it.
So, there is not " avoided killer " here, Golovkins resume is what it is.
Golovkin has the exact resume that he wanted, according to you.
I prefer real fighters who will take on a challenge.
You must believe GGG is one hell of a good fighter then.
Maybe that's why you hate him so much.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostOh ok, I don't read your **** carefully. Whatever postures these guys take now regarding a CW are worthless now until Cotto somehow beats Canelo, and starts negotiating with the mando. Why would they agree to give up that much leverage before the negos even start? You'd have to be an idiot of your caliber.
GGG is not The SMW Champ. Cotto OTOH is ranked above GGG in every decent ranking at MW.
It is useless discussing/debating with uninformed or ignorant people.
If Golovkin wants to use a catchweight to duck Ward, and then he wants to flatly refuse a catchweight to duck Cotto..... then I guess I'm fine with that, just so long as you are.
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