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    Originally posted by HEND View Post
    No, your argument makes no sense because you make Loma out like a victim.
    If Loma can make that weight easily and naturally then it's WHAT-E-VER why the hell Rigo asks for it. Loma rejects the rc because Rigo is rude to him with demanding it or what?

    I write it down the last time because I can't argue it more clear and I don't want to explain to you more time if you don't want to understand it.
    Loma makes it naturally --> he could fight Rigo in the same conditions when he fights against other fighters. It's whatever why Rigo asks for it. You can think Rigo is a primadonna because he wants it but the point is he wants a thing from Loma which is natural to Loma --> Loma rejects it.

    Learn how to lose an argument because you are getting desperated with this generalizing and with this "why Rigo wants it". It whatever why he wants it because in this case he wants a thing from Loma which is natural to Loma so there's no point to argue more about it, Loma should just say OK and both of them could fight in their usual weight.
    But Loma rejects it --> He bluffed, he doesn't want to fight Rigo at all.

    Sorry but it's very logical, din't know how you can't see it. Maybe because you take thing out of their context and generalize.
    If somebody demands from you a thing that otherwise natural to you and you really want the fight you should accept it not reject it, except if you just bluffed and you don't want that fight at all. That's all, I won't argue with you more on this because I wrote it off a few times but you either don't want to understand it or you just yet again can't afford to lose an argument so you hang on the same mantras which aren't important at all in the situation.
    If it's "whatever" then why ask for it?

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      Loma doesn't have to take that Rigo fight with disavantages. Rigo needs him more than Loma needs him

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        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        IMO Loma doesn't want to risk Walters making 126 and rehydrating to 143-145 where he would have a 10lb advantage over Loma, who would rehydrate to 133-135. The weight, in addition to Walters skills, might be too much for Loma. Why risk another loss at this point in his career? I completely understand that.

        Rigo doesn't want to come up to 126 where Loma would have about a 6-7lb weight advantage. I can understand that too.

        So stop the BS PR ploy and just make the Vevetkya fight- FW beltholder, fight at 126, no rehydration issues, miniscule risk of not making weight.
        In your opinion? Well we know where that comes from. Try using facts.

        As far as I know Lomachenko never had a problem fighting Walters at 126.

        The only problem he has now is Walters coming in overweight at the weigh-in again. Again....that's on Walters for being unprofessional, not Lomachenko who is doing things by the book.

        No biased opinions, just facts.

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          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          In your opinion? Well we know where that comes from. Try using facts.

          As far as I know Lomachenko never had a problem fighting Walters at 126.

          The only problem he has now is Walters coming in overweight at the weigh-in again. Again....that's on Walters for being unprofessional, not Lomachenko who is doing things by the book.

          No biased opinions, just facts.
          Walters coming in at 127 and trying hard to make 126 in the allotted time and then missing the weight doesn't mean he would not make 126 if a fight with Loma was made now.

          If that was Loma's only problem it would be silly, but you'd have a point. His other issue is Walters no longer holds a FW belt and Loma stated he only wants to fight FW belt holders. As such, calling out Rigo makes little sense because he also doesn't hold a FW belt.

          No biased opinions, just facts.

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            Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing View Post
            Walters is probably going to fight at 130 now. I'm sure the fight will happen once Loma also decides to move up. Or Walters can attempt to make 126 and we get a fight at 126. Right now we don't even know what Walters wants to do, but people like you are quick to make assumptions.
            Rigo is the one that needs fights, Klimas was just making an offer. He can take it or leave it.
            They both need the fight loma is just a boring amatuer type of boxer ...he's great at it but he's not the man ....he's not Koing everyone ...you would be a fool to think he doesn't need a big name he has only fought one good fighter who was still green ...he will need to fight someone soon and he will have to give in sooner or later ...just because they let him skip the rankings (with 1 loss btw)to get a belt doesn't mean he's the king ...he's still new in the pros ...he still needs to prove himself

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              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              Walters coming in at 127 and trying hard to make 126 in the allotted time and then missing the weight doesn't mean he would not make 126 if a fight with Loma was made now.

              If that was Loma's only problem it would be silly, but you'd have a point. His other issue is Walters no longer holds a FW belt and Loma stated he only wants to fight FW belt holders. As such, calling out Rigo makes little sense because he also doesn't hold a FW belt.

              No biased opinions, just facts.
              Rigondeaux has never fought at featherweight so how can he have a featherweight belt? I don't understand the line of thinking there.

              Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux is just a really good fight that a lot of people want to see. If Rigondeaux doesn't want to move up then I don't think Lomachenko is going to cry about it. He doesn't need the fight.

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                Rigondeaux is in NO position to be making demands. Lomachenko is the champ at 126 and Rigondeaux has NO other options.

                If Rigondeaux wants the fight he will agree to Lomachenkos terms or he can continue to sit on the sidelines. He has ABSOLUTELY NO BARGAINING POWER!!!

                This is a GREAT fight Rigondeaux needs to step back accept the terms and if he wins than he will be in position to make demands.

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                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  Rigondeaux has never fought at featherweight so how can he have a featherweight belt? I don't understand the line of thinking there.

                  Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux is just a really good fight that a lot of people want to see. If Rigondeaux doesn't want to move up then I don't think Lomachenko is going to cry about it. He doesn't need the fight.
                  Stop deflecting. Loma stated he only wants to fight FW belt holders and unify all the titles. Rigo is not a FW so calling him out contradicts this.

                  Yes it is, as is Loma V Walters, which more people wanted to see. True, if Rigo doesn't take the fight. Loma will be ok.

                  He will fight Vevetkya, which meets Loma's stated goal of only wanting to fight FW belt holders, but isn't the opponent most of us wanted, Walters, or Rigo, the guy we were all willing to accept instead of Walters.

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                    Originally posted by mike1010011 View Post
                    This is what we call "calling a kettle black". Rigo tops out at about 124-125 in the ring,and loma weighs in at 135-136,so that's a 10-12 lb difference. On the other hand Walters weighed in at 145 for his last fight, so he would only have 9-10 lbs on loma. Loma and his team have publicly come out and said that they wouldn't fight Walters because he's too big,and they wouldn't entertain a catchweights or a rehydration clause. So Walters would be to big for loma with a 9 lb weight advantage,but rigo is a coward for not agreeing to fight loma when he'd be outweighed by 10-12 lbs?
                    If he doesn't want to fight at 126 thats fine he can stay on the sideline at 122

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                      Originally posted by Art-illery View Post
                      BINGO. The irony? Rigo usually fights opponents with physical advantages over him. There are too many boxers dehydrating themselves to make a lower weight, then blow themselves up by damn near 4 to 5 weight divisions on the night of the fight. Lomachenko seems to hate the idea of fighting fighters with any kind of physical advantage over him.
                      Apparently you forget him fighting Salido who came in the ring as a DAMN welterweight!!!! Kinda conveniant, you don't bring that up

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