Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Rejects Rehydration Clause For Rigondeaux

[HEND]

If Lomachenko won't be any higher than 134 on fight night, then why does Rigondeaux need to put a rehydration clause in the contract for it?

Again, I'm not going to condemn a man who doesn't accept something that isn't the norm in boxing.

Lesser fighters than Rigondeaux have moved up in weight and been successful without catchweights or rehydration clauses. I'm frankly disappointed in Rigondeaux who I consider one of the best boxers I've ever seen.

Again, you ignore the certain situation and instead of it yu try to generalize it.

Rigo wants Loma to not be heavier than 134-135. Ok. He wants a formality from Loma because Loma isn't heavier at all. So it's fucking whatever why Rigo asks for that rc, that'snot the point here.

the point is he wanted a thing from Loma which isn't even a disadvantage to Loma because it's natural to him and according his manager that's his normal weight in the ring. And Loma still rejects it.
We have two fighters on of them would jump a weight class north and the other one would fight in his natural weight class and with his natural fight night weight, and still... who backs out? The latter one.
You intentionally don't want to realize that in this situation the rc wouldn't be a disadvantage to Loma at all, you just say "rehydration clauses are bad" like a mantra.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Dude, you are utterly ******ed sometimes. This is one of them. You can't refute my points so you start trying to make it about personal agendas. Typical Dirk.

Who blamed Loma for Walters coming in at 127?

Now he is a FW wanting to fight people at FW. Before he was a FW that only wanted to fight FW belt holders. So just fight Vevetkya, that fits both of these.

In reality he is a great amateur, that has star potential as a pro, is still too inexperienced to deal with fighters heavier than he, whose network and his promoter do not want to risk him losing again.

I have refuted your points AND recognised your agenda. All in a day's work. It's not exactly hard.

You are saying Lomachenko is "wrong" for being a featherweight who wants to fight at the featherweight limit with no rehydration clauses. Think about that statement.

[MC Hammer]

Being a "diva" because he wants to fight at a full weight class with no rehydration clauses.

Ran from a guy who was unprofessional and didn't make weight so lost his title

Am I dreaming here?

The only reason he wants a fight at the full weightclass is because it benefits him. He wouldn't want one at the full 130 with Walters, because we see he isn't screaming for that one.

Bottom line is, don't ask for the smaller guy if you can't make a single concession.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Again, you ignore the certain situation and instead of it yu try to generalize it.

Rigo wants Loma to not be heavier than 134-135. Ok. He wants a formality from Loma because Loma isn't heavier at all. So it's fucking whatever why Rigo asks for that rc, that'snot the point here.

the point is he wanted a thing from Loma which isn't even a disadvantage to Loma because it's natural to him and according his manager that's his normal weight in the ring. And Loma still rejects it.
We have two fighters on of them would jump a weight class north and the other one would fight in his natural weight class and with his natural fight night weight, and still... who backs out? The latter one.
You intentionally don't want to realize that in this situation the rc wouldn't be a disadvantage to Loma at all, you just say "rehydration clauses are bad" like a mantra.

Again, if it's not a disadvantage to Lomachenko, why does Rigondeaux need to make it an issue? If it's a formality, then why the clause? Your argument makes no sense.

Rigondeaux is the one kicking up a fuss. First the catchweight, now the rehydration clause.

126 & no rehydration clause or no fight. Simple. If Rigondeaux doesn't want to move up to featherweight properly then don't. Stay at 122.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The only reason he wants a fight at the full weightclass is because it benefits him. He wouldn't want one at the full 130 with Walters, because we see he isn't screaming for that one.

Bottom line is, don't ask for the smaller guy if you can't make a single concession.

He literally said he'd be happy to fight Walters at 130 when he moves up in weight in the future.

[The Big Dunn]

I have refuted your points AND recognised your agenda. All in a day's work. It's not exactly hard.

You are saying Lomachenko is "wrong" for being a featherweight who wants to fight at the featherweight limit with no rehydration clauses. Think about that statement.

I never said that at all. That's you outright lying about what I said.

I said he was wrong because he said he rejected the Walters fight for weight and because Walters no longer had a belt. Rigo doesn't have a FW belt and would have the same weight disadvantage that Loma complained about having should he fight Walters.

Vevetkya allows him to fight a FW beltholder, at FW, without a rehydration clause, all the things you said he wants. So make that fight and move on.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I never said that at all. That's you outright lying about what I said.

I said he was wrong because he said he rejected the Walters fight for weight and because Walters no longer had a belt. Rigo doesn't have a FW belt and would have the same weight disadvantage that Loma complained about having should he fight Walters.

Vevetkya allows him to fight a FW beltholder, at FW, without a rehydration clause, all the things you said he wants. So make that fight and move on.

Rigo doesn't have a FW belt because he's not at featherweight and seemingly refuses to fight there. I don't see how that relates to Walters.

Lomachenko doesn't want to risk Walters being unprofessional and coming in over the agreed weight limit. A legitimate gripe since that's exactly what he did in his last fight and what Salido did in the past.

[HEND]

Again, if it's not a disadvantage to Lomachenko, why does Rigondeaux need to make it an issue? If it's a formality, then why the clause? Your argument makes no sense.

Rigondeaux is the one kicking up a fuss. First the catchweight, now the rehydration clause.

126 & no rehydration clause or no fight. Simple. If Rigondeaux doesn't want to move up to featherweight properly then don't. Stay at 122.

No, your argument makes no sense because you make Loma out like a victim.
If Loma can make that weight easily and naturally then it's WHAT-E-VER why the hell Rigo asks for it. Loma rejects the rc because Rigo is rude to him with demanding it or what?

I write it down the last time because I can't argue it more clear and I don't want to explain to you more time if you don't want to understand it.
Loma makes it naturally --> he could fight Rigo in the same conditions when he fights against other fighters. It's whatever why Rigo asks for it. You can think Rigo is a primadonna because he wants it but the point is he wants a thing from Loma which is natural to Loma --> Loma rejects it.

Learn how to lose an argument because you are getting desperated with this generalizing and with this "why Rigo wants it". It whatever why he wants it because in this case he wants a thing from Loma which is natural to Loma so there's no point to argue more about it, Loma should just say OK and both of them could fight in their usual weight.
But Loma rejects it --> He bluffed, he doesn't want to fight Rigo at all.

Sorry but it's very logical, din't know how you can't see it. Maybe because you take thing out of their context and generalize.
If somebody demands from you a thing that otherwise natural to you and you really want the fight you should accept it not reject it, except if you just bluffed and you don't want that fight at all. That's all, I won't argue with you more on this because I wrote it off a few times but you either don't want to understand it or you just yet again can't afford to lose an argument so you hang on the same mantras which aren't important at all in the situation.

[The Big Dunn]

Rigo doesn't have a FW belt because he's not at featherweight and seemingly refuses to fight there. I don't see how that relates to Walters.

Lomachenko doesn't want to risk Walters being unprofessional and coming in over the agreed weight limit. A legitimate gripe since that's exactly what he did in his last fight and what Salido did in the past.

IMO Loma doesn't want to risk Walters making 126 and rehydrating to 143-145 where he would have a 10lb advantage over Loma, who would rehydrate to 133-135. The weight, in addition to Walters skills, might be too much for Loma. Why risk another loss at this point in his career? I completely understand that.

Rigo doesn't want to come up to 126 where Loma would have about a 6-7lb weight advantage. I can understand that too.

So stop the BS PR ploy and just make the Vevetkya fight- FW beltholder, fight at 126, no rehydration issues, miniscule risk of not making weight.

[MC Hammer]

He literally said he'd be happy to fight Walters at 130 when he moves up in weight in the future.

Like I said, he's not calling Walters out. He'll wait til he's comfortable for that fight, but is willing to call out the smaller one and try to make him put on 4lbs in the process.

Like I said, if he only wants to fight comfortably against other FW, then only call out FW's. Don't ask smaller fighters, who've never expressed interest in the weight class to jump and see you unless you're willing to make concessions.