Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Rejects Rehydration Clause For Rigondeaux

[HEND]

So now a fighter is a duck or a primadonna for wanting to fight at a full weight class with no rehydration clauses.

He's following the rules of boxing! What an arrogant ducking fraud!

All the people who defend Loma in this situation ignore an important fact. Namely that Loma's own manager told that he makes 134 easily and he isn't bigger anyways on fight night.

SO... What the fuck is the problem then? Klimas lied? Why the hell he would do that?
You keep saying that "rehydration clauses are bad" like a broken record, like mantra which should win the argument for you, but you don't want to look at this very situation where:

1: the rehyrdation clause would actually make sense, because both of the fighters would be able to write off something. Rigo would jump a weight class only for maybe the most dangerous fight for him and Loma should just stay below 134-135 on fight night which is otherwise natural to him. Lomachenko is no Mayweather, he isn't a shot caller, star fighter who should demand everything on a fight and his opponent should agree on it otherwise he doesn't get the big money fight. And this is probably the last chance of a Rigo vs Loma fight if Rigo signs to Haymon later in this year.

2: because of the things I mentioned above, your rehydration clause mantra would be just a fucking FORMALITY to Lomachenko, nothing more. Only person who should write off something is Rigo because he would be the one who jumps a weight class, the other thing, the rehydration clause would be just a simple generosity, a formality as I said.

So if Loma can easily make 134-135 and he doesn't weigh more anyways then there's no logical explanation why would he reject the rehydration clause other than he doesn't really want to fight Rigo and his bluff was called.



So be able to say a other argument other than that you don't like rehydration clauses therefore Loma is right. He can make the rehydration weight easily and naturally so your argument about rehydration clauses isn't strong, I mean it's really weak because what we are talking about here would be just a simple generosity from Loma's side, not a disadvantage to him.
It's not Broner vs Porter situation.
Look at the thing in their context and don't generalize.

And please react to my main points not to one or two certain sentences which are opinion based. Respond to the facts.

[The Big Dunn]

When did he nix the Walters fight? When Walters came in overweight and lost his featherweight title? Why is that Lomachenko's fault? Shouldn't you be blaming Walters for being unprofessional?

No, that wouldn't fit your agenda.

Dirk, stop the BS. Walters came in at 127 for his last fight after a long layoff from going home and celebrating his biggest pro win. losing his belt on the scales like that doesn't mean he will not make 126 for his next fight. Should he make 126 then he and Loma are still the 2 best FW's in the world IMO.

Walters tried to make 126 after coming in heavy, he didn't pull a Floyd or a Chavez and renegotiate a weight without trying to lose it. If that makes him "unprofessional" IYO, so be it.

Rigo is not a FW belt holder either so if not wanting the walters fight is solely about the loss of the belt, that suggests a Rigo fight wouldn't happen for the same reasons.

Loma is wrong either way you cut it on this so you pretend my opinion is based on a racially motivated agenda. Fine with me.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

All the people who defend Loma in this situation ignore an important fact. Namely that Loma's own manager told that he makes 134 easily and he isn't bigger anyways on fight night.

SO... What the fuck is the problem then? Klimas lied? Why the hell he would do that?
You keep saying that "rehydration clauses are bad" like a broken record, like mantra which should win the argument for you, but you don't want to look at this very situation where:

1: the rehyrdation clause would actually make sense, because both of the fighters would be able to write off something. Rigo would jump a weight class only for maybe the most dangerous fight for him and Loma should just stay below 134-135 on fight night which is otherwise natural to him. Lomachenko is no Mayweather, he isn't a shot caller, star fighter who should demand everything on a fight and his opponent should agree on it otherwise he doesn't get the big money fight. And this is probably the last chance of a Rigo vs Loma fight if Rigo signs to Haymon later in this year.

2: because of the things I mentioned above, your rehydration clause mantra would be just a fucking FORMALITY to Lomachenko, nothing more. Only person who should write off something is Rigo because he would be the one who jumps a weight class, the other thing, the rehydration clause would be just a simple generosity, a formality as I said.

So if Loma can easily make 134-135 and he doesn't weigh more anyways then there's no logical explanation why would he reject the rehydration clause other than he doesn't really want to fight Rigo and his bluff was called.



So be able to say a other argument other than that you don't like rehydration clauses therefore Loma is right. He can make the rehydration weight easily and naturally so your argument about rehydration clauses isn't strong, I mean it's really weak because what we are talking about here would be just a simple generosity from Loma's side, not a disadvantage to him.
It's not Broner vs Porter situation.
Look at the thing in their context and don't generalize.

And please react to my main points not to one or two certain sentences which are opinion based. Respond to the facts.

I haven't seen the quotes from his manager and I don't really care. Lomachenko has rejected a rehydration clause - something which is not the norm in boxing. I don't hold him at fault or call him a "primadonna" for abiding by the rules.

Rigondeaux is the one making demands that are out of the ordinary - that's being a primadonna.

If he doesn't want to fight at featherweight then don't. Stay at 122.

[HEND]

I haven't seen the quotes from his manager and I don't really care. Lomachenko has rejected a rehydration clause - something which is not the norm in boxing. I don't hold him at fault or call him a "primadonna" for abiding by the rules.

Rigondeaux is the one making demands that are out of the ordinary - that's being a primadonna.

If he doesn't want to fight at featherweight then don't. Stay at 122.

So you ignore the facts that are against your argument and you are not able to look at a certain situation where your so hated rc would be just a formality to Lomachenko instead of it you generalize the whole thing with "not the norm in boxing" in hope that this will win the argument for you while you just completely ignore that Loma wouldn't be any heavier anyways on fight night therefore the rehydartion clause wouldn't be a factor at all.

Nice to argue with you...

me: Look, at this certain situation, Loma can easily make 134 according to his manager. It's not a problem at all for him. Why would he reject it then?

you: rehydration clauses are bad.



Ok...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Dirk, stop the BS. Walters came in at 127 for his last fight after a long layoff from going home and celebrating his biggest pro win. losing his belt on the scales like that doesn't mean he will not make 126 for his next fight. Should he make 126 then he and Loma are still the 2 best FW's in the world IMO.

Walters tried to make 126 after coming in heavy, he didn't pull a Floyd or a Chavez and renegotiate a weight without trying to lose it. If that makes him "unprofessional" IYO, so be it.

Rigo is not a FW belt holder either so if not wanting the walters fight is solely about the loss of the belt, that suggests a Rigo fight wouldn't happen for the same reasons.

Loma is wrong either way you cut it on this so you pretend my opinion is based on a racially motivated agenda. Fine with me.

Call it whatever you want. There are several motives for your agenda. You see Lomachenko as Arum's cashcow and you still hold a grudge against Arum. Everyone here seems to have some gay ass agenda so you're not alone. I have no horse in this race.

Walters was unprofessional and came in overweight - again, how is that Lomachenko's fault? If Walters wants the fight, then make 126 and win your title back. Prove that you can make the weight. Lomachenko has already said he'll fight him at 130 when he moves up if he can't make 126 any more. If he can, then prove it.

I don't see him as "wrong" in any way shape or form. He's a featherweight who wants to fight people at featherweight. This is wrong to people with clear agendas.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So you ignore the facts that are against your argument and you are not able to look at a certain situation where your so hated rc would be just a formality to Lomachenko instead of it you generalize the whole thing with "not the norm in boxing" in hope that this will win the argument for you while you just completely ignore that Loma wouldn't be any heavier anyways on fight night therefore the rehydartion clause wouldn't be a factor at all.

Nice to argue with you...

me: Look, at this certain situation, Loma can easily make 134 according to his manager. It's not a problem at all for him. Why would he reject it then?

you: rehydration clauses are bad.



Ok...

If Lomachenko won't be any higher than 134 on fight night, then why does Rigondeaux need to put a rehydration clause in the contract for it?

Again, I'm not going to condemn a man who doesn't accept something that isn't the norm in boxing.

Lesser fighters than Rigondeaux have moved up in weight and been successful without catchweights or rehydration clauses. I'm frankly disappointed in Rigondeaux who I consider one of the best boxers I've ever seen.

[Weebler I]

The Loma should just fight Walters, which is the fight most of us prefer than a Loma/Rigo fight.

I actually like the Loma-Rigo fight more, arguably two of the most skilled guys in the sport but I'd like to see Lomachenko fight both.

[The Big Dunn]

Call it whatever you want. There are several motives for your agenda. You see Lomachenko as Arum's cashcow and you still hold a grudge against Arum. Everyone here seems to have some gay ass agenda so you're not alone. I have no horse in this race.

Walters was unprofessional and came in overweight - again, how is that Lomachenko's fault? If Walters wants the fight, then make 126 and win your title back. Prove that you can make the weight. Lomachenko has already said he'll fight him at 130 when he moves up if he can't make 126 any more. If he can, then prove it.

I don't see him as "wrong" in any way shape or form. He's a featherweight who wants to fight people at featherweight. This is wrong to people with clear agendas.

Dude, you are utterly ******ed sometimes. This is one of them. You can't refute my points so you start trying to make it about personal agendas. Typical Dirk.

Who blamed Loma for Walters coming in at 127?

Now he is a FW wanting to fight people at FW. Before he was a FW that only wanted to fight FW belt holders. So just fight Vevetkya, that fits both of these.

In reality he is a great amateur, that has star potential as a pro, is still too inexperienced to deal with fighters heavier than he, whose network and his promoter do not want to risk him losing again.

[Skip Bayless]

donaire weighed 140 at fight night against rigo didnt he? would love to see this fight happen but rigo is very small so i dont blame him if he doesnt want to take it without a catchweight

[The Big Dunn]

I actually like the Loma-Rigo fight more, arguably two of the most skilled guys in the sport but I'd like to see Lomachenko fight both.

It would make sense that Loma/Walters decide who the best FW is then Rigo moves up to fight the winner. Any fight involving these 3 would be fine.