Comments Thread For: Cotto: I Have Nothing To Prove To Canelo or Golovkin

[aboutfkntime]

Repeating rubbish that I've already replied to?

Cotto should vacate or fight Golovkin.

Simple as that. All it boils down to.

Golovkin should fight Lara at 160, or vacate.

He will never make the HOF by fighting made-to-order guys that he can hit/bully.

Its about time that hypejob Golovkin actually took a meaningful fight.

Cotto is not a meaningful fight at 160, except for your bank account.

Tell me why Hypekin ducked Lara ?

[aboutfkntime]

Golovkin, you are a total hypejob, and are badly over-rated.

You have done nothing but talk utter rubbish for the last few years.

Which is why your resume is shht.

" I can beat anyone from 154-168 "..... oh, except for Lara/Ward/Dirrell, and any other mover/puncher.

Fight Lara you b1tch !

Challenge yourself for once you coward.

Fight Lara !

[Craveman]

Golovkin should fight Lara at 160, or vacate.

He will never make the HOF by fighting made-to-order guys that he can hit/bully.

Its about time that hypejob Golovkin actually took a meaningful fight.

Cotto is not a meaningful fight at 160, except for your bank account.

Tell me why Hypekin ducked Lara ?

Don't use that weak example. Tell me is Lara currently fighting at 160 and does he have a belt? Can Lara fight on HBO because he is with Al Haymon and PBC.

Why fight Lara when there are better guys like Quillin, Lee, Lemieux and Ndam higher than Lara.

Why fight Lara when Golovkin can secure a fight with Froch if he's up for it.

Let me remind you and I am still waiting for your answer about this.

Should Cotto vacate the belts or fight Golovkin?

[aboutfkntime]

Don't use that weak example. Tell me is Lara currently fighting at 160 and does he have a belt? Can Lara fight on HBO because he is with Al Haymon and PBC.

Why fight Lara when there are better guys like Quillin, Lee, Lemieux and Ndam higher than Lara.

Why fight Lara when Golovkin can secure a fight with Froch if he's up for it.

Let me remind you and I am still waiting for your answer about this.

Should Cotto vacate the belts or fight Golovkin?

ARE YOU ****** ?

Golovkin wants to fight Froch, does Froch have a belt ?

Caveman, who is the current WBC Heavyweight Champion ?

Where do the WBC rank Wladimir Klitschko at Heavyweight ?

Why should I take the WBC seriously ?

Because you rate the WBC, why should I take you seriously ?

And because you are ******, why do you rate any of the belts seriously ?

Why are you soooooo fixated with something soooooo irrelevant ?

He should fight Lara, because Lara would enhance his resume' and be his best win to date..... how could you not be aware of that?

Unwrap your lips from around Golovkins knob lol.

If you knew anything about this sport, you would understand that Golovkin is very well-managed, and he is fighting lesser guys that he can hit/bully to impress casual fans like you.

hype1
[hahyp] Informal.

Examples
Word Origin

verb (used with object), hyped, hyping.
1.
to stimulate, excite, or agitate (usually followed by up):
She was hyped up at the thought of owning her own car.
2.
to create interest in by flamboyant or dramatic methods; promote or publicize showily:
a promoter who knows how to hype a prizefight.
3.
to intensify (advertising, promotion, or publicity) by ingenious or questionable claims, methods, etc. (usually followed by up).
4.
to trick; gull.
noun
5.
exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
6.
an ingenious or questionable claim, method, etc., used in advertising, promotion, or publicity to intensify the effect.
7.
a swindle, deception, or trick.

[aboutfkntime]

Golovkin should fight Lara at 160, or vacate.

He will never make the HOF by fighting made-to-order guys that he can hit/bully.

Its about time that hypejob Golovkin actually took a meaningful fight.

Cotto is not a meaningful fight at 160, except for your bank account.

Lara > Cotto.

Tell me why Hypekin ducked Lara ?

[kafkod]

Also, kayod.....

I consider myself very knowledgable regarding weight, weight manipulation.

The trend of blurring lines between divisons is lowering the standards within boxing, I have been very vocal about that, so your earlier comment "interests" me.

In fact, it more than interests me.

I would very much like to spend a lot of time discussing this with you, and today happens to be good for me.

I just dont take Cotto seriously at middleweight, he clearly isnt one, and he is not that far away from retirement..... so its no big deal to me.

Lets start with Pacquiaos career.....

There are two reasons why I suggest that we start with Pacquiao 1) because he is the best recent example of blatant weight manipulation 2) because my pac-tardation radar is bleeping loudly.

I am very interested in discussing manny-weight, because that will enable me to see how seriously you take your - most likely adjustable - standards.

Before we examine the 5 fights in question, lets quickly discuss one other.....

What do you think of Pacs win over Hoya ?

How highly do you rate that win ?

How much credit do you give Manny ?

You completely missed an obvious point, and you did it intentionally, just to win a debate...... you made a BIG deal out of the catchweight, to minimise Cottos potential win/loss..... and you did it to make Hypekin appear to have a significantly better resume, despite beating the exact same fkn guy......way to miss the point genius.

Hypekin is regarded as a killer, and has 9 years at 160 under his belt.

Not only is Cotto not a killer, he is not even a middleweight..... so the fact that you are quibbling over a catchweight, instead of giving me a HUGE list of superior names that Hypekin has beaten..... is pathetic, and tells the whole story.

Lets have that weight-debate now..... we can get back to Golovkin/Cotto.

My take on CWs is that they are ok for none title fights between boxers competing in different divisions, like Paquiao and Oscar, but should not be allowed in title fights between boxers competing in the same division, like Cotto and Geale.

Manny's win over Oscar looks good in the record books, but Oscar was clearly weight drained and that gave Manny a huge advantage.

I'm not a big fan of Manny, actually, but it's very revealing about you and your attitude to the sport that you should assume I am, just because I like GGG.

I've also been called a paqturd or whatever because I happen to rate another Russian, Kovalev, very highly.

So what's the connection between 2 Russians and a Philipino - in the heads of guys like you?

That's a rhetorical question, btw, because I already know what the answer is.

[Craveman]

ARE YOU ****** ?

Golovkin wants to fight Froch, does Froch have a belt ?

Caveman, who is the current WBC Heavyweight Champion ?

Where do the WBC rank Wladimir Klitschko at Heavyweight ?

Why should I take the WBC seriously ?

Because you rate the WBC, why should I take you seriously ?

And because you are ******, why do you rate any of the belts seriously ?

Why are you soooooo fixated with something soooooo irrelevant ?

He should fight Lara, because Lara would enhance his resume' and be his best win to date..... how could you not be aware of that?

Unwrap your lips from around Golovkins knob lol.

If you knew anything about this sport, you would understand that Golovkin is very well-managed, and he is fighting lesser guys that he can hit/bully to impress casual fans like you.

hype1
[hahyp] Informal.

Examples
Word Origin

verb (used with object), hyped, hyping.
1.
to stimulate, excite, or agitate (usually followed by up):
She was hyped up at the thought of owning her own car.
2.
to create interest in by flamboyant or dramatic methods; promote or publicize showily:
a promoter who knows how to hype a prizefight.
3.
to intensify (advertising, promotion, or publicity) by ingenious or questionable claims, methods, etc. (usually followed by up).
4.
to trick; gull.
noun
5.
exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
6.
an ingenious or questionable claim, method, etc., used in advertising, promotion, or publicity to intensify the effect.
7.
a swindle, deception, or trick.

Like I said, why Lara if there is Froch. Froch > Lara.

[Craveman]

Golovkin should fight Lara at 160, or vacate.

He will never make the HOF by fighting made-to-order guys that he can hit/bully.

Its about time that hypejob Golovkin actually took a meaningful fight.

Cotto is not a meaningful fight at 160, except for your bank account.

Lara > Cotto.

Tell me why Hypekin ducked Lara ?

Already gave the list. Make sure you read next it time.

Oh yeah.

Should Cotto vacate the belts or fight Golovkin?

[Craveman]

I've broken you down about fkin time. You're turning at every possible excuses and topics.

Belts are worthless, Klitschko, Lara.

How about we stick to the topic that relates to this thread.

Should Cotto vacate the belts or fight Golovkin?

[aboutfkntime]

My take on CWs is that they are ok for none title fights between boxers competing in different divisions, like Paquiao and Oscar, but should not be allowed in title fights between boxers competing in the same division, like Cotto and Geale.

Manny's win over Oscar looks good in the record books, but Oscar was clearly weight drained and that gave Manny a huge advantage.

I'm not a big fan of Manny, actually, but it's very revealing about you and your attitude to the sport that you should assume I am, just because I like GGG.

I've also been called a paqturd or whatever because I happen to rate another Russion, Kovalev, very highly.

So what's the connection between 2 Russians and a Philipino - in the heads of guys like you?

That's a rhetorical question, btw, because I already know what the answer is.

Well, earlier you tried to make out like you were some type of expert on weight, and that I was just a casual fan who knew nothing, so lets clear a few things up.....

1) that fight was not a catchweight

2) that fight was an attempted setup by Hoya that backfired

kafkod, why did the weight backfire on Hoya ?

Dude, weight fluctuation/manipulation, is extremely hard on the body, and can dramatically affect your career...... you stated that you were up with the play earlier, so I am surprised that you arent aware of that.

The example you provided, is absolute proof that fighters should stick to their optimum fighting weight.

Horrible example to justify weight fluctuation/manipulation.

The same parallel applied to Dawson at 168.

Neither, were catchweights..... but both fit the bill in terms of weight fluctuation/manipulation.

I dont think that you are up with the play on this subject, but props for keeping it real about Hoya.

This is my take.....

Catchweights are completely unnecessary, and should be abolished.

There are only two reasons to demand a catchweight.....

1) you are not good enough to compete against your opponent because of size disparity

2) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage

There is no other reason.

Neither reason is acceptable, especially considering the following.....

1) there are 17 divisions today, more than enough for fighters to settle on an optimim weight.... how the hell did guys get on back when there were only 8 divisions..... Armstrong is a fkn legend

2) there are plenty of appropriate opponents that make the fight more meaningful

3) Man-up, and fight the guy at the divisional limit, plenty of great fighters won being the smaller guy

A catchweight automatically becomes an exhibition match, and should not be taken too seriously at all.

I fully believe that I have a better understanding/feel about weight when it comes to boxing today than you do, just saying.....

I definitely DO NOT support the Geale catchweight, or any other catchweight.

One other thing.....

You mentioned Kovalev.

Now, not necessarily referring to you here, just something I have noticed.....

There are currently 3 Russians (eastern block, whatever) making waves in this sport..... the very best of them, just so happens to be the least popular.

That is funny as hell to me.

Casual fans get drunk on power ROOOOOOARRRRRRRRRR