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Manny Pacquiao, better fighter than Marvin Hagler, do you agree?

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    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    take a lil time out and check out a few of the videos I share.....Hagler was always balanced,, crisp jab, combos, good speed and power pre-1982....he slowed down a lot IMO after these years




    right but not a good counter-puncher, never much of a defense either

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      Someone find not 1 but 2 photos of Hagler stretched out unconscious on the canvas. THEN tell me Manny rates higher over the Marvelous one.

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        Originally posted by Mooshashi View Post
        Someone find not 1 but 2 photos of Hagler stretched out unconscious on the canvas. THEN tell me Manny rates higher over the Marvelous one.
        Hell you could find 3 of Manny stretched out on the canvas. Hagler avenged nearly all of his losses, which were all close fights. The one he couldn't avenge was due to the fact that the other guy ducked a rematch.

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          Originally posted by Mooshashi View Post
          Someone find not 1 but 2 photos of Hagler stretched out unconscious on the canvas. THEN tell me Manny rates higher over the Marvelous one.
          pacquiao accomplishments are much better than hagler's, that's why he's higher

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            Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
            Canelo is a super-Hagler? He has a better chin, speed, and power? Canelo is slow, both of hand and foot. Hagler has one of the best chins in boxing history.
            Errr...

            Canelo has NEVER BEEN STOPPED! So how can you claim that Hagler has a better chin?

            Hagler faster?

            Anybody can pull up a video of Canelo on the mitts and see immediately there's hardly ANY boxers capable of such swiftness as that at that weight and any who are are ALL from the current or recent eras.

            It's just that nothing you said has any relevance to reality!

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              i'm going with the guy who didn't ko'ed by taxi drivers and part time plummers.

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                Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                pacquiao accomplishments are much better than hagler's, that's why he's higher
                Pacquiao has far more accomplishments than Hagler but accomplishments bragging by Pac Stans in general is pathetic. We're in a era with 68 world titles (not counting the super titles) and 17 divisions. Those straps really don't mean as much as they used to.

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                  Look FFS, nobody is claiming Hagler was a chump right. He really was a great boxer.

                  But Christ, Pac is definitely and obviously one of, if not the, best boxers of all time.

                  We can just look and SEE that Pac is better than Hagler.

                  It's unbelievable how anybody could determine otherwise unless they've never seen Hagler and/or Pac fight or know how to analyse a record properly.

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                    Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
                    Look FFS, nobody is claiming Hagler was a chump right. He really was a great boxer.

                    But Christ, Pac is definitely and obviously one of, if not the, best boxers of all time.

                    We can just look and SEE that Pac is better than Hagler.

                    It's unbelievable how anybody could determine otherwise unless they've never seen Hagler and/or Pac fight or know how to analyse a record properly.
                    ..............

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                      Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                      right but not a good counter-puncher, never much of a defense either
                      I respect your opinion but I humbly disagree.....he is countering jabs with left and right hooks in those videos.....digging to the body when the jab misses and uses good uppercut counters


                      Lets be real, if you feel he was not a good counterpuncher and didn't have much a defense, you should feel the same about Manny


                      Neither were the best on defense or counterpunching but they both were adequate

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