Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Ward: Promoter Doesn't See Financial Sense

[Cinci Champ]

1. Ward can't fight....he can't even sign a contract at the moment for a fight.
2. This would not be a ppv fight and the highest HBO pays for a non ppv even is $2.75 million to be split up amongst both fighters with the A-Side usually taking the bulk.
3. Ward is not going to accept the fight even if he could because in HBO's eyes he's not the marquee name in this equation, while the public may argue differently it's not the public who handles the numbers and the views for each guys fights paints a different story than the public would believe.
4. Ward would be smarter to fight Chavez jr and take away his fans first
5. Gennady would be smart to fight cotto or canelo and improve his ticket sales.
6. HBO would be absolutely ****** to let this fight happen before it's ppv worthy.
7. Neither guy has had a ppv bout and those names i mentioned would put them on ppv before they face each other.

says the guy who complains about mayweather ducking fights

[Cinci Champ]

funny tho when fighter wouldnt fight ggg cause it didnt make financial sense u would think nsb wanted that fighter dead for ducking but if ggg does it who cares ya guys are seriously ridiculous with your 2 faced banter

[A-Wolf]

Ward dominating GGG is what wouldn't make sense for his promoter. Smart guy.

[HeroBando]

Bute also got destroyed by Froch at 168, so there's absolutely no reason to fight him at any weight.

Froch and Kessler are no doubt cherry picks, but considering his resume, I think he's entitled to one by now to make some decent money. His last 7 (EDIT: Put 6) opponents include all of the top guys at his weight, and 1 above his weight (though contested at 168). I fully believe that the best should fight the best, but the best should also be allowed to make some decent scratch. GGG, Kessler, Froch, and Chavez Jr. all provide that, and 3 of those 4 guys happen to be superb fighters.

As far as him not making an offer, he's sidelined with an injury, and going through a contractual dispute. As such, GGG's team shouldn't even be mentioning his name, and we probably shouldn't even be discussing this. The video I posted makes our debate meaningless anyway. GGG clearly said he's not going to be facing him anytime soon.

There was a 20 page thread about the video a few days ago, and the main conclusion is you cant put any stock in his terrible english. He could well been saying thinking about Ward or any other fighter is too much with the Geale fight looming.

I dont see them namedropping Ward much. Its Ward thats been sniping over the last couple of months, with no offer outgoing. His promotional issues are nobody's problem but his. As for his prospects at 168, its fine if he wants an easy fight but thats no way to remain p4p when your last good win came in 2011!

[doom_specialist]

There was a 20 page thread about the video a few days ago, and the main conclusion is you cant put any stock in his terrible english. He could well been saying thinking about Ward or any other fighter is too much with the Geale fight looming.

I dont see them namedropping Ward much. Its Ward thats been sniping over the last couple of months, with no offer outgoing. His promotional issues are nobody's problem but his. As for his prospects at 168, its fine if he wants an easy fight but thats no way to remain p4p when your last good win came in 2011!

That explanation sounds like an excuse to me, but to each his own. I think it's pretty clear what GGG meant, and I also don't think there's any shame in not wanting to move up, or not wanting to fight Ward at this particular time. Either way, he's not fighting Ward, so whatevs. Good discussion. Thanks for not being ******

[Foreign Soil]

Go to 8:15, and hear Golovkin say "No, Andre Ward is too much for me not today." Because GGG is still learning English (doing a damned good job too), I construed it 1 of 2 ways:

1. Andre Ward is too good for me. Now is not a good time to fight him.

2. Andre Ward is too big for me, and I'm not fighting at 168 at this time.

Either of which are acceptable and respectable, because he's intelligent enough to know his own limits, and understand that he needs time to grow, unlike his team, who thinks he's the boogeyman and everyone is running scared.

Both of these scenarios kill my argument against HeroBando hilariously enough lol.

This video was also published only 11 days ago, so it's current information.

What do you say about Ward's response to a Kovalev offer? "I'm not a LHW, guys." - Nothing to lose in translation in that statement, unlike the GGG one where no one knows what he meant.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What do you say about Ward's response to a Kovalev offer? "I'm not a LHW, guys." - Nothing to lose in translation in that statement, unlike the GGG one where no one knows what he meant.

Whatever he meant, your sig looks pretty ******ed considering

[HeroBando]

That explanation sounds like an excuse to me, but to each his own. I think it's pretty clear what GGG meant, and I also don't think there's any shame in not wanting to move up, or not wanting to fight Ward at this particular time. Either way, he's not fighting Ward, so whatevs. Good discussion. Thanks for not being ******

It's never really clear what GGG is saying in English. but what is clear is that at this point the onus is on Ward to make the offer, since he's still the money man of the 2. Maybe not for long, if the Chavez fight didn't fall through for GGG the equation would have changed. Good convo nonetheless

[Foreign Soil]

Whatever he meant, your sig looks pretty ******ed considering

Strikes fear in all the diehard haters.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Strikes fear in all the diehard haters.

Ok well write that instead of the ridiculous and false statement you've written