Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Ward: Promoter Doesn't See Financial Sense

[Tobi.G]

1. Ward can't fight....he can't even sign a contract at the moment for a fight.
2. This would not be a ppv fight and the highest HBO pays for a non ppv even is $2.75 million to be split up amongst both fighters with the A-Side usually taking the bulk.
3. Ward is not going to accept the fight even if he could because in HBO's eyes he's not the marquee name in this equation, while the public may argue differently it's not the public who handles the numbers and the views for each guys fights paints a different story than the public would believe.
4. Ward would be smarter to fight Chavez jr and take away his fans first
5. Gennady would be smart to fight cotto or canelo and improve his ticket sales.
6. HBO would be absolutely ****** to let this fight happen before it's ppv worthy.
7. Neither guy has had a ppv bout and those names i mentioned would put them on ppv before they face each other.

You are right. Ward cant fight right now because of his contract issues and the fight still needs more time to grow anyway. Ward better take a tune-up fight before fighting Golovkin or he might get embarassed, so it will not happen shortly. Ward did not fight for a long time and i guess it will take some more time until he steps in the ring again.

[Inkanyamba]

Boxing is about the best fighting the best. GGG and his team are choosing the money fight over the best fight. Let's see if NSB keeps with its historical behavior and turns their collective back on him since boxing isn't about making money.

Bruh, they treat GGG different than other fighters and hold him to different standards. He's European and can punch, that's all we need to know.

[Dealer]

Boxing is about the best fighting the best. GGG and his team are choosing the money fight over the best fight. Let's see if NSB keeps with its historical behavior and turns their collective back on him since boxing isn't about making money.

"This is called prize fighting, not pride fighting. We are fighting for a prize. If you take the prize out of it, I do not think that boxing would even be a functioning sport. Honestly, I don’t see why people get upset at fighters when they are serious about their money." - Andre Ward

[Bachavelli]

so this guy wants cotto right .. Doesnt he realize that cotto can easily wave him off as not making business sense either ..

[Kagami Taiga]

so this guy wants cotto right .. Doesnt he realize that cotto can easily wave him off as not making business sense either ..

Exactly. It's a 2 way street. So now when Cotto doesn't fight him all these fans defending him have zero argument.

[Nomadic]

Where's Mayweather? Oh wait, nevermind... Mayweather wouldn't take more than $100 million to fight a "midget" who started his career at 105 pounds... so you know you couldn't pay Mayweather $200 million to take a fight against Triple G...

Maybe it has something to do with the weight issue. I could be wrong.

[doom_specialist]

What do you say about Ward's response to a Kovalev offer? "I'm not a LHW, guys." - Nothing to lose in translation in that statement, unlike the GGG one where no one knows what he meant.

At least have the decency to finish the quote.

"I'm not a light heavyweight. That's what it is. I know there's been a lot of noise about [Sergey] Kovalev. That's one fight. That's not even a pay per view fight. That's a premium network television fight. When I go there and we beat Kovalev, they're going to say he's just a puncher and he's one-dimensional. Where do I go from there? I'm stuck at the light heavyweight division. There are options. Gennady Golovkin is an option. [Julio Cesar] Chavez [Jr.] is an option. But those guys have been allowed to circumvent fighting the best guys. Golovkin has built his reputation on fighting anybody. I raise my hand and say I'm somebody. Let's do it. And there's nothing. They circumvent and try to go Chavez."

I'm not gonna debate at all on what GGG meant, because it's very clear what he meant, but people feel the need to make up excuses even though there's absolutely no shame or weakness in what he said. I for one respect GGG, because he understands his capabilities, and knows that he needs more time to mature as a fighter, and let his body grow naturally. A middleweight cannot duck a super middleweight, the same way a super middleweight cannot duck a light heavyweight, so trying to construe his words as something else in an attempt to make him not look afraid is just being a stan, in my honest opinion. It's pretty obvious that GGG fears no one, yet gave an honest answer.

"You don't reach this level of the sport fearing other fighters. It just doesn't work that way." - Andre Ward

Moving forward, Andre Ward's argument has validity to it. If he beats Kovalev, who's gonna fight him next? The people in his division already want none of him, so imagine how tough it'll be to get a big payday after beating the supposed boogeyman on Boxing After Dark. The only other action at 175 is Stevenson, and Stevenson wouldn't go near Ward if he beat Kovalev. He'd be in an even worse position, because the guys at 168 and below would have yet another reason to duck, and his only other lucrative option at that weight would run from him, because he's already running from the guy that Ward is supposedly running from.

[goldenbear]

GGG knows too much risk to fight Ward.

There is no incentive to fight Ward especially knowing he will not win and essentially make less money vs fighting Cotto, Chavez Jr., Canelo, or even Froch. Which are all fights he can win. However Cotto stands to make more fighting Canelo vs GGG. If I was Cotto I would fight Canelo first then take an easier fight in between then fight GGG. So GGG may not get a chance to fight Cotto till the end of 2015. If Cotto beats Canelo in a mega pay day I could see him riding off into the sunset as well leaving GGG w/o a dance partner.

[HeroBando]

Exactly. It's a 2 way street. So now when Cotto doesn't fight him all these fans defending him have zero argument.

Really? Cotto is lineal at mw, ggg undisputed #1 contender. You need more help?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Really? Cotto is lineal at mw, ggg undisputed #1 contender. You need more help?

Cotto-Golovkin: Promoter Doesn't See Financial Sense