Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Ward: Promoter Doesn't See Financial Sense

[Dirk Diggler UK]

A guy whos #1 ranked and universally acknowledged as the best guy in the division has no mandate at the champ? Whatever windup, go parse Frochs "humor" and make some more dumb Ggg Bute parallels

So if there's a mandate then why doesn't GGG force the fight? Oh yeah because there's no mandate

[SaldanaCC]

This is another floyd vs pac fight both sides not only the fighters but team do not think they can win so lets make up a bunch of reasons not to make the fight its to dangerous for all involved to say it wont make money is dumb weve alllll been waiting for ward to fight a guy who could challenge him same with GGG unless ward fought GGG i would not buy a ward ppv an i wouldnt buy a GGG ppv unless it was ward period!

[HeroBando]

So if there's a mandate then why doesn't GGG force the fight? Oh yeah because there's no mandate

This is boxing, a money guy will not be forced into anything. The Man in the division should be ready to face the #1 contender, do you disagree? If hess too small or thinks its too risky, it makes a mockery of the whole lineal status

[Dirk Diggler UK]

This is boxing, a money guy will not be forced into anything. The Man in the division should be ready to face the #1 contender, do you disagree? If hess too small or thinks its too risky, it makes a mockery of the whole lineal status

Fighters should take the fights that make the most sense financially. That's what GGG's team are trying to do, so why can't Cotto?

Fans should stay consistent on their standards.

[HeroBando]

Fighters should take the fights that make the most sense financially. That's what GGG's team are trying to do, so why can't Cotto?

Fans should stay consistent on their standards.

Consistency comes into play when the circumstances are similar. Divisional supremacy is a basic thing in boxing, thats how all the rankings operate. Remind me, did Froch duck Hopkins?

[Foreign Soil]

At least have the decency to finish the quote.

"I'm not a light heavyweight. That's what it is. I know there's been a lot of noise about [Sergey] Kovalev. That's one fight. That's not even a pay per view fight. That's a premium network television fight. When I go there and we beat Kovalev, they're going to say he's just a puncher and he's one-dimensional. Where do I go from there? I'm stuck at the light heavyweight division. There are options. Gennady Golovkin is an option. [Julio Cesar] Chavez [Jr.] is an option. But those guys have been allowed to circumvent fighting the best guys. Golovkin has built his reputation on fighting anybody. I raise my hand and say I'm somebody. Let's do it. And there's nothing. They circumvent and try to go Chavez."

I'm not gonna debate at all on what GGG meant, because it's very clear what he meant, but people feel the need to make up excuses even though there's absolutely no shame or weakness in what he said. I for one respect GGG, because he understands his capabilities, and knows that he needs more time to mature as a fighter, and let his body grow naturally. A middleweight cannot duck a super middleweight, the same way a super middleweight cannot duck a light heavyweight, so trying to construe his words as something else in an attempt to make him not look afraid is just being a stan, in my honest opinion. It's pretty obvious that GGG fears no one, yet gave an honest answer.

"You don't reach this level of the sport fearing other fighters. It just doesn't work that way." - Andre Ward

Moving forward, Andre Ward's argument has validity to it. If he beats Kovalev, who's gonna fight him next? The people in his division already want none of him, so imagine how tough it'll be to get a big payday after beating the supposed boogeyman on Boxing After Dark. The only other action at 175 is Stevenson, and Stevenson wouldn't go near Ward if he beat Kovalev. He'd be in an even worse position, because the guys at 168 and below would have yet another reason to duck, and his only other lucrative option at that weight would run from him, because he's already running from the guy that Ward is supposedly running from.

Sad. You gobble up anything Ward says and completely excuse it, as expected. He doesn't even need to move up, cos he automatically beats Kovalev, but you expect GGG to move up, right? Why should GGG move up? Since he automatically beats Ward in his own mind as well. Kovalev beats Ward in his mind as well, so he doesn't need to fight Ward either.

[doom_specialist]

Sad. You gobble up anything Ward says and completely excuse it, as expected. He doesn't even need to move up, cos he automatically beats Kovalev, but you expect GGG to move up, right? Why should GGG move up? Since he automatically beats Ward in his own mind as well. Kovalev beats Ward in his mind as well, so he doesn't need to fight Ward either.

I clearly said that I believe GGG is the real deal. I clearly said that I'm OK with GGG not fighting Ward right now, and even made the suggestion that GGG probably wants to grow naturally, unify his division, and not move up too quickly. I clearly said that a middleweight cannot duck a super middleweight, and that I don't believe that GGG is afraid to move up because of Ward or anyone else. Lastly, I NEVER said that GGG has to move up, but that his team should stop mentioning 168 or any other classes if that's not where they're planning to go. It's like you haven't read anything that I've bothered to post, and already had a pre-made response based on your notion that I was pro-Ward/anti-Golovkin.

I also never said that Ward automatically beat Kovalev, but you attempted to make it look like Ward was ducking by taking a very small part of a quote and trying to spin it. He gave legit reasons on why he felt moving up wasn't good for him right now, and I agreed with them based on the fact that everyone already has a reason why they can't fight him. Beating Kovalev in any fashion would more than likely result in him having to move up again, because everyone at 168 already want no parts of him. He'd be on HBO beating up mandatories until retirement.

This isn't a matter of "If GGG has to do it, why doesn't Ward have to do it too?" This is a matter of "If you're not gonna do something, stop talking about it until it's relevant." Team Ward isn't planning on moving SOG up, and they don't talk about moving him up. They want lucrative bouts, and that's ALL they talk about. Team Golovkin isn't planning on moving GGG up, so any talk of 168 should be "some time in the future," instead of "everyone from 154-168 is ducking our guy." When you get called out by someone from a higher class, and all you can say is "Promoter doesn't see financial sense," I'm sure you can imagine the word that the detractors will immediately begin to react with (HINT: It rhymes with firetruck).

GGG said from his own mouth that Andre Ward is not in his plans right now, so his trainer and his promoter should not be mentioning him, or 168 for that matter. Generating buzz for a fight nowhere on the horizon makes very little sense. I didn't think the Mayweather-Pacquiao sequel would come so soon. I'd die if Andre came outta nowhere with: "I'll fight GGG at 160, but he has to do OST" lmao.

[Dealer]

I don't think you understood the post I quoted.

I completely understand boxing is a job for fighters and as such they go after the bigger paydays. I was giving the oft repeated mantra of NSB to see if they will hold GGG to this standard.

I hear you, I'm definitely not into flip flopping to support your narrative.

Side note: The phrase, "best fight" is subjective. I completely disagree with people saying that the best fight for GGG is a fight with Ward. It would be 12 rounds of GGG trying to figure a way out of the clench. Ward would no doubt turn in into a wrestling match. He would use his size advantage to smother GGG. If the "best fight" means nothing more than a potential loss for GGG, then yes that's Ward-GGG. If we're talking about the "best fight," meaning a good fight with good action. A fight with Ward is the last fight I want to see GGG take.

[IboxSouthpaw]

If GGG is going to lose he at least wants a nice payday ... Does nobody understand that .. This shouldn't even be news

[thuggery]

I don't condemn him, Ward couldn't even draw 50 people to his meet and greet in Oakland