Why was Golovkin willing to move up to 168 for Chavez Jr but not for Andre Ward?

[DeadLikeMe]

If Ward were fighting Golovkin's level of competition people would be crying about how he is ducking real challenges rather than his inactivity. Somehow, at the same time it makes Golovkin an unstoppable beast. I'm fine with Golovkin staying at 160 and Ward staying at 168. All these fighters jumping around so much combined with the excessive amount of weight classes is making divisions pointless. Whatever happened to guys moving up/down, fighting a tuneup/gatekeeper or two to test the waters, then taking the big fight. Now it seems like guys just jump weight classes for big fights because it comes in with a bult-in excuse.

[Sir Babatunde]

OKAY... so lets just say they backtracked! Golovkin really doesn't wanna fight the #1 168lber yet!!

whats your point?!?! lol get over it


Like someone said on the last page 8. Wards team NEVER sent an offer.... All he said was "i would fight him." That's it. literally. On top of that Ward is having a legal dispute with his promoter and has to go to court. he is not even in a position to fight lol wtf are you complaining about?

LIES, he fought Edwin Rodriguez while having the SAME legal problems, he is in a position to fight which isn't my opinion, it's proven by the FACT he fought Rodriguez.

[King_]

LIES, he fought Edwin Rodriguez while having the SAME legal problems, he is in a position to fight which isn't my opinion, it's proven by the FACT he fought Rodriguez.

Okay so can you send the link which shows the details of the contract that was sent to Golovkins camp?


Because for the Chavez fight (which the thread is about) there was an actual contract offer sent to K2....

[Beater_of_ass]

I brought it up as an example to explain to the other guy why i have a problem with GGG not fighting Ward but don't have a problem (for now) with Ward not fighting Kovalev which is that Ward didn't have a fight scheduled to move up to 175 lbs against someone e.g. Pascal but then when the fight fell through, didn't entertain the idea of fighting Kovalev.

You can say whatever you want but these are the facts:

GGG - Never fought above 160 or anyone above 160.

Ward - Fought a guy at 175, made him come down to 168, won't fight anyone at 175 again.

Just give it man, Ward is calling out a guy a division under him while refusing to move up himself. Thats not ducking, it's called being a scared little b*tch.

[Sir Babatunde]

If Ward were fighting Golovkin's level of competition people would be crying about how he is ducking real challenges rather than his inactivity. Somehow, at the same time it makes Golovkin an unstoppable beast. I'm fine with Golovkin staying at 160 and Ward staying at 168. All these fighters jumping around so much combined with the excessive amount of weight classes is making divisions pointless. Whatever happened to guys moving up/down, fighting a tuneup/gatekeeper or two to test the waters, then taking the big fight. Now it seems like guys just jump weight classes for big fights because it comes in with a bult-in excuse.

Exactly and if Golovkin fought some of the guys Ward fought everyone would go absolutely nuts.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

LIES, he fought Edwin Rodriguez while having the SAME legal problems, he is in a position to fight which isn't my opinion, it's proven by the FACT he fought Rodriguez.

He should fight Kovalev then

[Sir Babatunde]

You can say whatever you want but these are the facts:

GGG - Never fought above 160 or anyone above 160.

Ward - Fought a guy at 175, made him come down to 168, won't fight anyone at 175 again.

Just give it man, Ward is calling out a guy a division under him while refusing to move up himself. Thats not ducking, it's called being a scared little b*tch.

No, Dawson clearly said in the post fight interview he was willing to come down to 168, that's on him. Ward didn't make Dawson do anything.

Here are some other facts you forgot to mention:

Golovkin- when first asked about Ward said he had unfinished business (no problem from me, i understand that)

Then goes on to say he is willing to fight ANYONE from 154-168 (ok he changed his mind, let's hope he stick by the key word 'anyone')

Negotiates to fight Chavez JR at 168, fight falls through.

When asked about Ward following that he goes back to saying he wants to unify at 160. BACKTRACKKKK

[thabanga510]

GGG wants no part of Ward in the ring.

[Sir Babatunde]

Okay so can you send the link which shows the details of the contract that was sent to Golovkins camp?


Because for the Chavez fight (which the thread is about) there was an actual contract offer sent to K2....

You're absolutely right Chavez is a key part of this thread. Also willingness is a key part and it's clear through various contradictory statements by team GGG regarding Ward that they aren't willing to fight him therefore they aren't going to make an offer to a camp who are admittedly unwilling.

GGG and his camp get a complete pass for ultimately cashing out on c/d level fighters.

[HEND]

People bringing up Kovalev's name but you should understand that Ward all of his interviews in the last 1-2 years said, that his weightclass is 168 and doesn't plan to move up yet. In turn: Golovkin and his team stated that they willing to fight anyone from 154-168.
You really don't see what's the difference between the two?
Out of this I don't think Golovkin is a "duck" but in my eyes he is unproven and overrated and Ward would probably turn him from good boy to school boy (and Kovalev from krusher to air krusher).